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Does he? Lowe offered him a position as an olive branch and he refused.

I have commented about Mr McMememy before with his unnecessary comments made in recent times. He is a bitter man when it comes to Saints Lowe and Cortese Chairmanship. However, putting that aside, his lifetime achievement award is well deserved. He managed us over a high point in our history and is entitles to bask in that glory. Well done big fella for what you did in that time and for your charity work. Just keep quiet, your time has passed with Saints.

Poor game, poor Saints, even poorer Carlisle. Game best forgotton. 3 points though and very welcome.

I think there is a lesson here, not to take media reports at face value particularly when they are perceived as attacks on the club and Mr Cortese. The club have maintained a policy not to respond to all the nonsense reported. They will only respond when such allegations are damaging to the club such as the report that the club was up for sale just when Mr Cortese was negotiating with a new major sponsor. I am glad Ex Saints have gone on record. I thought it strange that there was a rift when we saw so many ex players introduced at the FA cup games. I commented on a previous thread about the protagonists who appear to have a grudge and I will not repeat it here. The club are not innocent. Some of Mr Cortese’s decisions have ruffled feathers. However none have put the club at risk. We are entitled to shout when we feel a decision is wrong for us or the club BUT we must make sure we have all the facts. I do see the clubs reticence to fully communicate contributes to false rumour making but that is the consistent approach they have decided to take.

Just a reminder that it is £3 per transaction not £3 per ticket. When we bought our Cup tickets we did it as a group and only paid one £3 fee. I consider it is a shame the cost cannot be absorbed in the price of a ticket but outsourcing costs money and the fee covers that. The benefit to the club is the pressure is passed to the outsoursing company, no employment issues, no employer NI costs, no pension contributions, no employemt law problems like laying employees off. They keep a small number of employees to deal with walk up tickets and they will have other duties when not needed in that area.

Why is this a sticky? The event has sold out. If people want to comment, fine but why is it cluttering up the head of the forum?

In my opinion those outside the club spitting in know exactly what they are doing. They know one of Cortese's weak spots is his ego. The Echo Editor was in dispute with Cortese. A year into the Liehberr purchase they ran an article praising all he had done for the club. Not once did they mention Cortese's involvement. That, in my opinion, was deliberate and they knew Cortese would fume. He did of course, from accounts I have heard. This group setting up the 125 year event approached the club, I am told by an unreliable source - StuRomseySaint, and were told that the club would not endorse it as they had their own idea's on celebrating the event. The group went away and organised it, sold out within weeks, and many supports/fans are looking forward to attending. Because it is a sell out there is no need for further advertising. Why then, just before the event, is things appearing in the media. Could it be that they knew the invitations sent to the club, not to the individual homes of the invitees, would be rejected by Cortese? Was this not another opportunity to dig? Why did Banali and Le Tissier make comment on two different Sky programmes on the day of the Man Utd cup game? It was clear the question put to Benali was pre managed. Geoff Sterling, returning to Le Tissier after discussing the potential of Alex Chamberlain and whether he should stay, asked about his problems getting tickets from the club to which Le Tissier responded. Stage Managed again? I think so. I can understand that they feel they might be being excluded. It is sad to see it. BUT their actons are not going to shift Cortese nor soften his resolve. What their actions are doing, as demonstrated on this thread once again, is to divide the supporters, keeping the unacceptable face of politics alive and well and gnawing away at our future potential. It would be nice to get them in one room, knock their head together to gain consensus, and move on but there are too many egos. Too much bad blood. We, the supporters and the players we pay to watch much rise above such bickering or we are once again a dead club walking.

I have a question? When McMenemy, Le Tissier, Benali, Osman decided to organise a 125 year celebration at the Mayflower did they first approach the club to discuss the event, organising, charity or did they just look see no event organised and got on with it? Southampton Football Club have a registered Charity - Saints Foundation. As the official charity should this not normally be where the funds raised should go? McMenemy has voiced his opinion on Saints matters in the past. He was part of the political maelstrom that engulfed Saints prior to Administration. He has continued to voice his opposition to the way Cortese conducts business. Le Tissier backed the wrong horse for too long and just maybe his outbursts since on Sky etc have gone against him Benali is in dispute with Cortese and the club Mike Osman is a decent guy and a Saints supporter but is sometimes outspoken against the club and part of that political maelstrom of the past. In my opinion, this is not about the history of Southampton being celebrated. It is about political one upmanship and a way of raising money for their chosen charity, not the official Saints charity. Cortese has a part to play in this but as long as the four of them continue to voice their opinions in public it is seen as an anti Cortese campaign. Cortese runs the club, the players are contracted to the club and he is within his rights to refuse to release them for the event. The wound is festering and neither side seem to be able to apply the healing balm. What a sad state of affairs

Why are posters reacting to this story as they are? We should be proud the Mail sees us, a Div 3 club, worth £50m after what we have gone through in recent years. We should not blame dark forces. There is nothing in the article which destabilises the club or the owners. There are no quotes or attributations from sources near to..... There is no comment that the Liebherr family want to sell only that the club is seen by Middle East interests as an ideal purchase. The usual “no smoke without fire” does not apply. There is no smoke, just a newspaper commenting on our market worth. They are complimentary of our club, our supporters, and our city. Rejoice people. Would the Liebherr family sell? Well they will be aware of Marcus wishes for the club. If someone came in with £50m and could demonstrate they could take the business plan and model forward without gearing, why not. A good business profit without damaging the late Marcus’s dream will do no one any harm A simplistic and naive view maybe, but as valid as all the other comments on this thread.

Martin is very much in Adkins plans for the future, the emphasis being on future.

Schneiderlin was injured in training on Thursday and like Lallana did not travel. Do not know the extect of his injury but Lallana is very close to returning and likely to be in the mix for Carlise game

Calm down. We look like we have a lot more goals in us second half.....mind you so do Peterborough.

Why have you posted over 18,000 on a football message board!

What has that got to do with his season ticket ban? You and some others are using this thread to voice your prejudice against Nick but missing the real issue which is a long standing supporter was refused a season ticket without a fair explanation.

Mike, I have spoken to Nick about the withdraw of Season Ticket purchase and he does not, even now, know why he has been refused that privilage. Whatever Nick's past he was very supportive of the new regime as it began to take power. He made all the right noises and quotes to the media supporting the Liebherr/Cortese purchase of the club from the Administrator. Yes he voiced opinion's on issues relating to withdrawal of season ticket instalment plans. All he was doing was voicing many season ticket holders concerns who felt that such withdrawal at short notice was a poor decision and precluded them from purchsing the same. Whether you like it or not the media do contact Nick and listen to him and his views. We do not know the reason. Nick approached the club on a number of occasions for a reason/explanation but they stayed silent. He followed the complaint procedure open to all supporters fearing that to do nothing might create a damaging precedent. The Ombudsman report is the result. As Saints have continued to refuse to answer the question, although being co-operative with the investigators in all other ways we have to come to an unsatisfactory conclusion that this is the club (Cortese) flexing his muscles. I am a great supporter of what Cortese is trying to achieve and am still positive he is the best person to continue to strengthen the business and by that our ambitions to return to the position of a great club we are all proud to support but he must be careful how he treats opposite views and have a transparency on such matters. Nick is not one of the "dark forces" Cortese sometimes refers to. Perhaps he thinks he is. That would explain his actions over the silence on the season ticket issue. Hopefully we can all move on. The report is out and if Saints continue to take a stand on the issue there is nothing Nick can do other than withdraw his support. That he will not do after so many years as a loyal supporter

Windsor and Eton died today http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=10874

Nick does not post on here but because you genuinely asked the question and becasue I think of you as a fair and sensible poster I emailed him a moment ago and his response is "I have never bypassed Cortese to go to Liebherr at any time on any matter"

The judgement has only just come out (although Saints & Nick had a draught a few weeks ago. Nick is waiting for a response from Saints and will remain silent on the subject until resolved or closed. Quite right too

Quite simple really - Nick paid for a season ticket for this season - money returned - Nick asked for an explanation - club ignored - club refused to give an explanation o various football bodies - did say he was not banned from the ground and could buy a match day ticket whenever he liked. This was a prejudice against one person with a refusal to give an explanation, even up to the date of the report. Whatever posters might think of Nick he has been treated badly by the club and I suspect Cortese in particular. Refusal to give an explanation to Nick or any investigating body taking it up on his behalf suggests there is no explanation. That is not Nick's fault. Let us hope the club agree to him having a season ticket again next year and this sorry business can be put to bed.

It is Puncheon to Blackpool according to journo at the Echo. Says it will be announced soon unless some disaster. They seem sure and Jordan Sibley still at SMS suggests that is the one. Lambert rumour cannot be so. It takes time to get to Newcastle, then medical, then discuss terms. Not enough time. Other one for West Ham was Martin - undislosed bid rejected by Saints as they see him as one for our future. Puncheon and out.

NineteenCanteen on 17:41 - Jan 31 with 188 views Lambert allegedly catching flight to Newcastle according to TalkSport

Forte in CCC - 18 starts - 6 sub - 3 goals - 3 assists - 22 on target 27 off hit woodwork once - no yellow or red cards

Ian Baraclough has confirmed that forward Jonathan Forte is in Southampton discussing a potential move to the League One side.