Griffo Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 There's a possibility I may buy a season ticket in the Itchen North this season, although when I went to buy tickets for the Millwall game in block 4 up to top, it was all sold out! I hope this is not the case for most of the season. Would be extremely good if blocks 1-3 were opened again, but it's not going to happen is it? I hope to god that Itchen North doesn't sell out this quickly every game now, because it is the best place for singing/banter with away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I wonder if there is any way of opening up Block 3 and still keeping the netting and restriced area as Block 1 & 2, therefore still negating the need for a heavy steward and police presence between the Itchen North and the Away Section??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Still miss Block 2. Never enjoyed games as much since it closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 There's a possibility I may buy a season ticket in the Itchen North this season, although when I went to buy tickets for the Millwall game in block 4 up to top, it was all sold out! I hope this is not the case for most of the season. Would be extremely good if blocks 1-3 were opened again, but it's not going to happen is it? I hope to god that Itchen North doesn't sell out this quickly every game now, because it is the best place for singing/banter with away fans. My mates tried to get 3 season tickets together in block 4 - he couldn't at the mo' as there are several ST holders that haven't renewed. That would leave me to beleive that if they do renew then block 4 will seel out very quickly for most games (obviously depending on results etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I wonder if there is any way of opening up Block 3 and still keeping the netting and restriced area as Block 1 & 2, therefore still negating the need for a heavy steward and police presence between the Itchen North and the Away Section??? Good shout Um - I could get my old seat back then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 23 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Anyone got David Luker's email address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 (edited) Griffo. I tried to get three seats together in block 4. If you wait till after August 31st then seats may become available should a ST holder not renew. I was told that blocks 1-3 will NOT be opened until every other seat has been sold. It is the `most expensive area to open' apparently (I find that hard to believe as stewards are still there even with the netting and huge segregation areas) so the other corners will be opened first. Stupid in my opinion. This corner is extremely popular with fans and with no terraces fans are desperate for even the remotest amount of atmosphere such as the Itchen/away fans offers. I know we went over this last year but I'd be interested to know excatly how much is saved in a season by having blocks 1-3 closed. They quoted £200,000 for all the corners and the majoirty of thjat due to blocks 1-3. That is a hell of a lot of police costs - which I can only assume is what makes up this figure. Edited 23 July, 2009 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Anyone got David Luker's email address? dluker@saintsfc.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Agreed Itchen blocks 1-3 was the best atmosphere in the ground for banter and singing IMO. Surely with both Itchen 1-4 and Northam singing we would create a great atmosphere again. For me, shutting these blocks killed it. How do you put a price value on atmosphere though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon 84 Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 dluker@saintsfc.co.uk Well iv just emailed him so thats one more on the list. I also mentioned about the club running a plane to Newcastle for the Carlisle game 26th sept, they did do a similar thing for the Hull game 2 or 3 years ago which was a success. Perhaps a few more emails may persuade him to at least think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I have said this before that i find the steward and policing costs a little strange. We still had lines of police and stewards on the isle of block 4 and at the side of the away fans even though there is a 30 yard gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Why are the club worried about money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Why are the club worried about money? I suspect that they see it an unnecessary cost in League 1, when they are expecting sub 20,000 crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Why are the club worried about money? Simple really, ML wants us to run as a business on its own two feet. If your costs out weight your income then your fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I have said this before that i find the steward and policing costs a little strange. We still had lines of police and stewards on the isle of block 4 and at the side of the away fans even though there is a 30 yard gap. Exactly right, the excuse from the club that this saves costs simply doesn't add up, despite leaving blocks 1-3 empty they still employ ridiculous numbers of OB and stewards on aisle at the end of block 3/4 so if they are going to have them there anyway at least open block 2 and 3 and let the fans have their choice of favourite place to sit. For any area of the ground that would sell relatively quickly it seems madness to keep it closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 how many seats are there in block 1-3? they should only sell adult STs for this area. then the club would know exactly who was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Exactly right, the excuse from the club that this saves costs simply doesn't add up, despite leaving blocks 1-3 empty they still employ ridiculous numbers of OB and stewards on aisle at the end of block 3/4 so if they are going to have them there anyway at least open block 2 and 3 and let the fans have their choice of favourite place to sit. For any area of the ground that would sell relatively quickly it seems madness to keep it closed. could not agree more. I'd add that the improved atmosphere generated by having that section opem will make the `match day experience' better for all in the ground and this will actually encourage people to come back - thereby increasing income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 how many seats are there in block 1-3? they should only sell adult STs for this area. then the club would know exactly who was there I think that would be the way to go least you shouldnt have too many problems that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Well iv just emailed him so thats one more on the list. I also mentioned about the club running a plane to Newcastle for the Carlisle game 26th sept, they did do a similar thing for the Hull game 2 or 3 years ago which was a success. Perhaps a few more emails may persuade him to at least think about it. LOL How would you get from Newcastle to Carlisle - the opposite side of the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 LOL How would you get from Newcastle to Carlisle - the opposite side of the country? 1.5 hours on the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 maybe a plane for hartlepool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Itchen North is also responsible for most 'banter' between home fans too, as the boys and girls in The Northam can't even see the whites of the away fans eyes. Maybe they should open blocks 1-3 for the upcoming Milk Cup match against Northampton, that way Mr Liebherr can see/hear for himself what we've been missing last season. Sometimes it was more entertaining than the footbal. btw just got my cup tickets, and was told that ST's are just over 9,000 at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon 84 Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 LOL How would you get from Newcastle to Carlisle - the opposite side of the country? Its 50 miles from newcastle to carlisle, same sort of distance to brighton, perhaps the club could arrange coaches from the airport. As money isn't so much an issue these days this could be done by the club at cost, they done this at hull a couple of years ago at cost so why not again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 We ended up with STs in Block 5 as there were no seats left together in Block 4............would love to get back in Block 3 though. I don't particularly support the Adults only idea, although part of the charm of Block 1-3 was that there seemed to be a like-minded group who wanted the atmosphere but had perhaps grown out of the Northam. If money is the issue why not up the price of the tickets to pay for these 'additional police' costs. I'd happily pay a fiver a match more to sit where I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon 84 Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Just to update anyone interested, i had a reply from David Luker with regards to flights to newcastle for the carlisle game, he said will investigate the matter with flybe & get back to me. You can get a flight to newcastle on the morning of the game but cant get back untill the next morning. I am suggesting to David for the club to organize with flybe a return flight the same day & coaches to the match at cost. Just a point on the Itchen North, i raised a point with David saying the club is missing a trick with not opening blocks 1,2 & 3. The atmosphere created in these blocks must drown out the opposition fans & at the same time give the team a sometimes needed boost. Not had a reply on that one yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 (edited) Well iv just emailed him so thats one more on the list. I also mentioned about the club running a plane to Newcastle for the Carlisle game 26th sept, they did do a similar thing for the Hull game 2 or 3 years ago which was a success. Perhaps a few more emails may persuade him to at least think about it. There is an airfield at Carlisle only minutes from the ground. It opens 0900-1830 and by arrangement. Managed by Stobart Air. It has ATC, limited radio aids, handling facilities and a runway long enough for the Dash 8 - Q400. About the same (TORA) length as Southampton but a reduced length for landing (LDA). Edited 24 July, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Just to update anyone interested, i had a reply from David Luker with regards to flights to newcastle for the carlisle game, he said will investigate the matter with flybe & get back to me. You can get a flight to newcastle on the morning of the game but cant get back untill the next morning. I am suggesting to David for the club to organize with flybe a return flight the same day & coaches to the match at cost. Just a point on the Itchen North, i raised a point with David saying the club is missing a trick with not opening blocks 1,2 & 3. The atmosphere created in these blocks must drown out the opposition fans & at the same time give the team a sometimes needed boost. Not had a reply on that one yet... As a matter of interest the Runway at Carlisle is I believe longer and wider than Galway to which Flybe operated a schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 (edited) If money is the issue why not up the price of the tickets to pay for these 'additional police' costs. I'd happily pay a fiver a match more to sit where I wanted. now there's an idea. If it costs more to police blocks 1-3 why the **** don't they just charge more for the ST's? It costs 350 quid for block 5, whilst for 10 yards to the right its 288 quid in block 3, why not charge 350 for block 1-3. You pays your money you... Edited 24 July, 2009 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simples Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 There is an airfield at Carlisle only minutes from the ground. It opens 0900-1830 and by arrangement. Managed by Stobart Air. It has ATC, limited radio aids, handling facilities and a runway long enough for the Dash 8 - Q400. About the same (TORA) length as Southampton but a reduced length for landing (LDA). Is it a commercial airfield though? It doesn’t matter how long the runway is (LDA), (TORA), (TODA), it needs to have the commercial status to accept fare paying passengers. Also, unless FlyBE are able to operate this under their AOC (Air Operators Certificate), as this is not currently under their route structure, this would not be feasible. If you know of enough people who you could get together though, then you can charter an aircraft, then that company would be operating under a different type of AOC to FlyBE, an Ad Hoc chater, and you might be able to get into said airfield and back again after the game. Feel free to PM me if you think this might be an option for your travel plans. Simples:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 There is an airfield at Carlisle only minutes from the ground. It opens 0900-1830 and by arrangement. Managed by Stobart Air. It has ATC, limited radio aids, handling facilities and a runway long enough for the Dash 8 - Q400. About the same (TORA) length as Southampton but a reduced length for landing (LDA). Plane spotter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 There is an airfield at Carlisle only minutes from the ground. It opens 0900-1830 and by arrangement. Managed by Stobart Air. It has ATC, limited radio aids, handling facilities and a runway long enough for the Dash 8 - Q400. About the same (TORA) length as Southampton but a reduced length for landing (LDA). Is it a commercial airfield though? It doesn’t matter how long the runway is (LDA), (TORA), (TODA), it needs to have the commercial status to accept fare paying passengers. Also, unless FlyBE are able to operate this under their AOC (Air Operators Certificate), as this is not currently under their route structure, this would not be feasible. If you know of enough people who you could get together though, then you can charter an aircraft, then that company would be operating under a different type of AOC to FlyBE, an Ad Hoc charter, and you might be able to get into said airfield and back again after the game. Feel free to PM me if you think this might be an option for your travel plans. Simples:cool: Plane spotter! After I retired, I flew the Q400 for a couple of years part time for Flybe. Carlisle is a licenced airfield, Fire cover is the only variable criteria and that can be hired in. Flybe can fly to any licenced airfield that fulfills the criteria in their area certificate. Flybe if they thought it worthwhile could do it but as it is the weekend, still in the summer schedules, possibly wouldn't be interested. Jet fuel is available but the Q400 wouldn't need refuelling. Handling is available for flights. The Q400 has airstairs and as long as it isn't parked nose in wouldn't need a tug or towbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Itchen North Became pretty crap. Too many scarfers in there as it became the place to be. Also far too many kids giving it the big one, Leeds game when they went down was a great example, as soon as leeds charged the barries, half of blocks 1,2 and 3 were in blocks 5 and 6. Was much more enjoyable when it less kids and ****s thinking they're cool because they can swear at away fans. Also sat there last season and it was utter ****, Don't think it will be the same as it was 3/4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I was told last week that the 'corners in the itchen would remained closed for the forseeable future', so looks a lost cause I'm afraid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 (edited) jjj Edited 26 July, 2009 by St. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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