Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 (edited) Whilst reading the thread on Brighton making a DVD of their recent win against us on the basis it was a local derby I thought it was worth looking up Saints local head to head record against South Coast and Hampshire clubs in the cups and league since 1920 I must admit I was a little surprised by the results as shown below with descending levels of success (3 points for a win) P, W, D, L, GF, GA, Goal Diff, Win Ratio, Points to Games, PTS Difference Sorted in descending order by points to games Yeovil 2 2 0 0 7 0 +7 100% 3.0 +6 Oxford 15 9 4 2 26 14 +12 60% 2.07 +21 Exeter 16 10 3 3 38 14 +24 63% 2.06 +21 Brighton 35 20 8 7 56 31 +25 57% 1.94 +39 Portsmouth 35 19 8 8 66 41 +25 54% 1.86 +33 Swindon 32 17 7 8 62 33 +29 53% 1.81 +27 Bristol R 23 13 2 8 38 26 +12 57% 1.78 +15 Aldershot 10 4 4 2 18 12 + 6 40% 1.60 +6 Bristol C 36 17 6 1354 43 +11 47% 1.58 +12 Torquay 12 4 6 2 23 17 + 6 33% 1.50 +6 Reading 37 14 13 10 52 45 +7 51% 1,49 +12 Bournemouth 18 7 5 6 34 27 + 7 39% 1.44 +3 Plymouth 64 21 19 24 83 94 -11 33% 1.28 -9 We have a better record against all local teams with the exception of Plymouth who lead us by 3 wins and 11 goals We have a better record in Head to Heads against all the others with only one win and 3 goals keeping us ahead of Bournemouth Whilst our best records are against Yeovil Oxford Exeter Brighton and Portsmouth where we are well ahead in wins goals and points Edited 30 November, 2009 by Saint Without a Halo Added Oxford Swindon Reading Yeovil and the two Bristols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 How do Exeter, Plymouth and Torquay qualify as derby games? Reading, Swindon, Oxford and even the west London clubs are closer than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2009 Was just using South Coast and Hampshire clubs for interest can easily add others including the Bristols Swindon, Reading and Oxford but am not sure how to get the table to work looks ok when composing until I send it and then it all bunches up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 So Plymouth have over taken us just in the last few season then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2009 (edited) Have added Yeovil Oxford Swindon Reading and the two Bristols P, W, D, L, GF, GA, Goal Diff, Win Ratio, Points to Games, PTS Difference Sorted in descending order by points to games Yeovil 2 2 0 0 7 0 +7 100% 3.0 +6 Oxford 15 9 4 2 26 14 +12 60% 2.07 +21 Exeter 16 10 3 3 38 14 +24 63% 2.06 +21 Brighton 35 20 8 7 56 31 +25 57% 1.94 +39 Portsmouth 35 19 8 8 66 41 +25 54% 1.86 +33 Swindon 32 17 7 8 62 33 +29 53% 1.81 +27 Bristol R 23 13 2 8 38 26 +12 57% 1.78 +15 Aldershot 10 4 4 2 18 12 + 6 40% 1.60 +6 Bristol C 36 17 6 1354 43 +11 47% 1.58 +12 Torquay 12 4 6 2 23 17 + 6 33% 1.50 +6 Reading 37 14 13 10 52 45 +7 51% 1,49 +12 Bournemouth 18 7 5 6 34 27 + 7 39% 1.44 +3 Plymouth 64 21 19 24 83 94 -11 33% 1.28 -9 We actually have a better head to head against everyone bar only Plymouth! Edited 30 November, 2009 by Saint Without a Halo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Thomas7 Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 As a point of interest I'm fairly sure that I heard we have NEVER lost to the skates in a cup competiton in our history. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 how can you class a derby game (or local) with a team 160 miles away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 As a point of interest I'm fairly sure that I heard we have NEVER lost to the skates in a cup competiton in our history. Is this true? In my mind we have never lost to the Skates in any match, period! That may just be traumatic stress memory loss though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2009 As a point of interest I'm fairly sure that I heard we have NEVER lost to the skates in a cup competiton in our history. Is this true? Yes 5 cup games and 5 straight wins 4 Fa and 1 League Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2009 how can you class a derby game (or local) with a team 160 miles away I am not classing them as derby games just reacting to Brighton claiming their recent win was a derby by looking at all clubs in the South West and around our vicinity to compare head to heads with. Happy to consider only Poopey if you like as our record against them is so good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2009 Full record against Portsmouth to date for interest 19 wins 8 Draws and 8 defeats since 1920 and league status League Matches at Southampton, Portsmouth, Cup, Total, Southampton wins 7 7 5 19 Portsmouth wins 4 4 0 8 Draws 4 4 0 8 Southampton goals 30 23 13 66 Portsmouth goals 20 19 2 41 League Results English Premier League 24.04.2005 Portsmouth 4-1 Southampton 13.11.2004 Southampton 2-1 Portsmouth 21.03.2004 Portsmouth 1-0 Southampton 21.12.2003 Southampton 3-0 Portsmouth English Division One (old) 03.01.1988 Southampton 0-2 Portsmouth 22.08.1987 Portsmouth 2-2 Southampton English Division Two (old) 06.04.1976 Portsmouth 0-1 Southampton 27.09.1975 Southampton 4-0 Portsmouth 26.12.1974 Portsmouth 1-2 Southampton 14.09.1974 Southampton 2-1 Portsmouth 05.02.1966 Portsmouth 2-5 Southampton 28.08.1965 Southampton 2-2 Portsmouth 16.01.1965 Southampton 2-2 Portsmouth 12.09.1964 Portsmouth 0-3 Southampton 08.02.1964 Southampton 2-3 Portsmouth 28.09.1963 Portsmouth 2-0 Southampton 02.03.1963 Southampton 4-2 Portsmouth 13.10.1962 Portsmouth 1-1 Southampton 31.12.1960 Portsmouth 1-1 Southampton 27.08.1960 Southampton 5-1 Portsmouth 15.01.1927 Southampton 0-2 Portsmouth 28.08.1926 Portsmouth 3-1 Southampton 16.01.1926 Portsmouth 1-2 Southampton 05.09.1925 Southampton 1-3 Portsmouth 29.11.1924 Portsmouth 1-1 Southampton 27.09.1924 Southampton 0-0 Portsmouth English Division Three (South) 25.03.1922 Southampton 1-1 Portsmouth 18.03.1922 Portsmouth 0-2 Southampton 18.09.1920 Portsmouth 0-1 Southampton 11.09.1920 Southampton 2-0 Portsmouth Cup Results English FA Cup 29.01.2005 r4 Southampton 2-1 Portsmouth 07.01.1996 r3 Southampton 3-0 Portsmouth 28.01.1984 r4 Portsmouth 0-1 Southampton 13.01.1906 r1 Southampton 5-1 Portsmouth English League Cup 02.12.2003 r4 Southampton 2-0 Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 hey goodwork, that must of taken sometime to research. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 A few years ago they used to run a cup competition along the lines of the JPT which mixed Div 3 and 4 with the top end of non-league (the Vauxhall Conference as it was then). Cue the sports reporter on our local TV late-evening news bulletin concluding with, 'And finally, in the South coast derby, it was Bournemouth 2 Dover 0'; that must have been one of the furthest derbies in the history of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 A few years ago they used to run a cup competition along the lines of the JPT which mixed Div 3 and 4 with the top end of non-league (the Vauxhall Conference as it was then). Cue the sports reporter on our local TV late-evening news bulletin concluding with, 'And finally, in the South coast derby, it was Bournemouth 2 Dover 0'; that must have been one of the furthest derbies in the history of the game. So what would the East coast derby be? Ipswich v Newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 P, W, D, L, GF, GA, Goal Diff, Win Ratio, Points to Games, PTS Difference Sorted in descending order by points to games Yeovil 2 2 0 0 7 0 +7 100% 3.0 +6 Oxford 15 9 4 2 26 14 +12 60% 2.07 +21 Exeter 16 10 3 3 38 14 +24 63% 2.06 +21 Brighton 35 20 8 7 56 31 +25 57% 1.94 +39 Portsmouth 35 19 8 8 66 41 +25 54% 1.86 +33 Swindon 32 17 7 8 62 33 +29 53% 1.81 +27 Bristol R 23 13 2 8 38 26 +12 57% 1.78 +15 Aldershot 10 4 4 2 18 12 + 6 40% 1.60 +6 Bristol C 36 17 6 1354 43 +11 47% 1.58 +12 Torquay 12 4 6 2 23 17 + 6 33% 1.50 +6 Reading 37 14 13 10 52 45 +7 51% 1,49 +12 Bournemouth 18 7 5 6 34 27 + 7 39% 1.44 +3 Plymouth 64 21 19 24 83 94 -11 33% 1.28 -9 We are walking this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 Interesting comparisons. Thanks for your effort in compiling this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 (edited) A few years ago they used to run a cup competition along the lines of the JPT which mixed Div 3 and 4 with the top end of non-league (the Vauxhall Conference as it was then). Cue the sports reporter on our local TV late-evening news bulletin concluding with, 'And finally, in the South coast derby, it was Bournemouth 2 Dover 0'; that must have been one of the furthest derbies in the history of the game. It *was* the JPT. There were non-League sides in it from 2000/1 to 2005/6 when it was called the LDV Vans Trophy. And the top division of non-League hasn't been called the Vauxhall Conference since 1998, it was called the Nationwide Conference for 2 full years before their teams were invited into that competition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Trophy Edited 1 December, 2009 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 hey goodwork, that must of taken sometime to research. well done. Was just about to post the same message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 It *was* the JPT. There were non-League sides in it from 2000/1 to 2005/6 when it was called the LDV Vans Trophy. And the top division of non-League hasn't been called the Vauxhall Conference since 1998, it was called the Nationwide Conference for 2 full years before their teams were invited into that competition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Trophy Thanks for the info, tho not sure how if it was called the LDV and it included Conference sides, it *was* the JPT? It seems a different sort of beast entirely ..... anyways, bring on the west coast derby, Bristol Rovers v Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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