JackanorySFC Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 When I was a nipper I seem to remember an England/ Saints (might have made up the Saints bit) who used to follow England all over the world in the 80's/ early 90's. Think he was in his 80's/ 90's at the time too! Used to have a Union Flag on a pole at games with England with a red Chelsea pensioners type jacket and John Bull hat I think too? If I havn't made him up (pretty sure I havn't as I used to see him sat outside a beach hut in Bournemouth every summer) he was a true character, the like of which you don't see much of any more? Anyway, was he Saints and if he was, what was his story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 (edited) Ken Bailey was his name,I think he was from Bournemouth and I seem to remember he was involved in some kind of scandal. Edited 27 April, 2011 by OVER THE HILL spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 27 April, 2011 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Yep, Ken Bailey: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-ken-baily-1467167.html Cheers mate, just wondered that's all. Certainly was Bournemouth, mods might want to move this to General Sport or sommit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Ken Bailey. He was the self-styled official England cheerleader until he got caught up in a kiddie-diddling scandal. He used his cossie and status to turn up to any sporting occasion that took his fancy and blagged his way in. I recall him turning up at all sorts of big games at The Dell (normally involving the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, etc) even though he patently didn't support either team. By then, the novelty of seeing him had worn off and as people worked out that he was poncing a free ticket to the game, he always got roundly booed. Not that it bothered him. He was pretty thick-skinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 27 April, 2011 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Ken Bailey. He was the self-styled official England cheerleader until he got caught up in a kiddie-diddling scandal. He used his cossie and status to turn up to any sporting occasion that took his fancy and blagged his way in. I recall him turning up at all sorts of big games at The Dell (normally involving the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, etc) even though he patently didn't support either team. By then, the novelty of seeing him had worn off and as people worked out that he was poncing a free ticket to the game, he always got roundly booed. Not that it bothered him. He was pretty thick-skinned. That's the thing, I'm sure I remember seeing him in the upper east stand as a kid? Must have been on the ponce, glad I didn't go anywhere near him with his (alleged?) form for noncing - shame really, ruined my memory of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 I remember him well, and just about everything I've read on here is as how I remember it, including the kiddy fiddling thing, but I've just googled him "Ken Baily" and there is no mention of it whatsoever. It does appear that he was quite an athlete though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 His obituary doesn't mention his "fondness" for young boys. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-ken-baily-1467167.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Always told to stay away from him I was growing up in Bompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 To hear that he was nicknamed "World Cup Willie" at the 66 World Cup Final doesn't sit comfortably with me now when I hear he was a pederast. Allegedly of course, but since you cannot defame the dead, who cares. Filthy old pervert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 I read that obituary and decided to google Erica Roe (the Twickenham Streaker) as he was responsible for covering her up during her performance. She was from Petersfield so there's another tenuous localish link and actually has her own wikipedia page unlike Bill who I'd have thought would have from what was said in the obituary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Well this was certainly worth being flagged up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 He was also Bournemouth's mascot for some years and used to come out and run around the pitch ala Sammy Saint does for us. He also belonged to Bournemouth Spartans who swan on Christmas day and I believe he was a member of Poole Wheelers Cycling Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 His obituary doesn't mention his "fondness" for young boys. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-ken-baily-1467167.html I am not sure there was any fondness, just a rather weird old guy. Unless someone knows some bones to put on the kiddy fiddling story, I don't reckon it's true, well not up to his mid - late 70's anayway. My Auntie lived in the same block of flats and her husband always warned me about him when I went to stay. But after 15 years he came to the conclusion he was just a "weird old fooker". For some reason I met him several times in night clubs where he would just go round shaking everybody's hand then disappear. He had a heart of gold in respect to local charities and was continually conned out of "bus many home". I was always very wary of the guy because of his attitude to life and speech. He was as fit as a fiddle and very few of those good at sports as teenagers could keep up with him, pretty sure he was into most sports to county standard. Just as well he gave up boxing though as his whole face and palette got flattened, hence the speech. Everyone in my generation thought he was suspect, but I never heard anything to back that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Used to run marathons in his younger days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 I read that obituary and decided to google Erica Roe (the Twickenham Streaker) as he was responsible for covering her up during her performance. She was from Petersfield so there's another tenuous localish link and actually has her own wikipedia page unlike Bill who I'd have thought would have from what was said in the obituary. At the time Erica worked in John PFC W******d's dads bookshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 27 April, 2011 Share Posted 27 April, 2011 Didn't he used to carry blue and red victory signs? I recall him holding them aloft as he walked around the pitch, cheers for the red boos for the blue. As a kid I always though it was a political thing, looking back it was probably team colours, though Liverpool wore yellow in them days and that's the only time I'd see the sponging toerag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 He used to hang around the ice rink in Bournemouth; If you told him it was your birthday he would give you a quid. I must he over a hundred by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 He used to hang around the ice rink in Bournemouth; If you told him it was your birthday he would give you a quid. I must he over a hundred by now. He would be if he was still alive.....but he isn't ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 He used to hang around the ice rink in Bournemouth; If you told him it was your birthday he would give you a quid. I must he over a hundred by now. Good work, bet that was a lot back in those days. Hope you've managed to suppress those 'other' memories of him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 http://torquayfansforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=7090&action=display&thread=4985 A bit about him on that link. They made a subbuteo figure of him. How cool is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 He would be if he was still alive.....but he isn't ! I think Cricketphilly was implying that he used to tell (lie to ) KB that it was his (Cricketphillys) birthday in order to get a quid out of the old fella, and if you added up all the times he (Cricketp) did this, to his actual age now, the total would be over 100, not that KB is over a hundred. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 Good work, bet that was a lot back in those days. Hope you've managed to suppress those 'other' memories of him though True, he used to give me £2 for those treats though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 28 April, 2011 Share Posted 28 April, 2011 I think Cricketphilly was implying that he used to tell (lie to ) KB that it was his (Cricketphillys) birthday in order to get a quid out of the old fella, and if you added up all the times he (Cricketp) did this, to his actual age now, the total would be over 100, not that KB is over a hundred. HTH Cooorrect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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