dubai_phil Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2366512,00.html Like it says - details the problems he had with his groin, what he did to cure it and why he is confident for the new season ahead. Also states (again) what a mess pre-season was last year in terms of injuring the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Despite some of the more lurid speculation, this piece hints at the real reasons behind Pardew's departure. Pre-season was a mess, lack of interest in sport science, not involving youngsters with the first team squad etc etc - all part of NC's vision for the future of the club. One or the other had to go, and it wasn't goung to be Don Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 I like the bit about Connolly knowing what is required in the championship to do well " we need to score goals" says David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Despite some of the more lurid speculation, this piece hints at the real reasons behind Pardew's departure. Pre-season was a mess, lack of interest in sport science, not involving youngsters with the first team squad etc etc - all part of NC's vision for the future of the club. One or the other had to go, and it wasn't goung to be Don Cortese. Intresting though that Connolly blames pre season but has been carrying that injury since he was at Sunderland, you have to wonder though how much of a factor pre-season really is though given how we finished this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Not sure any assumption can be made about decisions on pre-season last year being down to Pardew. Surely the trip to Interlaken was influenced, if not decided, by Marcus and Cortese. The OS did later describe pre-season as gruelling and Pardew said he regretted the injuries, but once they came back from Switzerland most of the games were against non-league sides. Interestingly, Butterfield was signed because of Frazer Richardson's injury in training at Interlaken, and that turned out to be a good move. As for Frazer, his injury was a dislocated shoulder from landing awkwardly after a headed clearance in a practice match, so like most injuries, a simple accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 It'll be interesting to see if Newcastle struggle with injuries this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 It'll be interesting to see if Newcastle struggle with injuries this season. Pardew is not a fool. He won't make the same mistake twice. I wonder whether the players under his control now (i.e. Prem level) are able to withstand a harder pre-season regime? Possibly not - more fragile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 It'll be interesting to see if Newcastle struggle with injuries this season. I think they'll struggle, and he'll be gone by Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Intresting though that Connolly blames pre season but has been carrying that injury since he was at Sunderland, you have to wonder though how much of a factor pre-season really is though given how we finished this season. Pre-season was a factor at the start of last season, there is no doubt. The Club worked on things though and by mid-season we were basically where we needed to be, but how much easier it would have been if we had not had the wretched start we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Not sure any assumption can be made about decisions on pre-season last year being down to Pardew. Surely the trip to Interlaken was influenced, if not decided, by Marcus and Cortese. The OS did later describe pre-season as gruelling and Pardew said he regretted the injuries, but once they came back from Switzerland most of the games were against non-league sides. Interestingly, Butterfield was signed because of Frazer Richardson's injury in training at Interlaken, and that turned out to be a good move. As for Frazer, his injury was a dislocated shoulder from landing awkwardly after a headed clearance in a practice match, so like most injuries, a simple accident. Think its very clear that the problems in pre-season were down to Pardew and his team. It was nothing to do with where they had problems, going to Interlaken was not a problem, it was what they did when they got there. From DC's comments it is quite clear that certain players (almost certainly Lambert & Lallana) were over-worked and handled very badly. Of course Richardson's injury was just bad luck, could have happened anywhere. I was concerned last pre-season with the players jumping off the bridge to swim in the river, in my opinion that was quite a foolish thing to do, but as far as I know no-one was hurt doing it. I think Pardew just didn't have a proper plan for pre-season, and got over-excited by his surroundings and forgot the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Pre-season was a factor at the start of last season, there is no doubt. The Club worked on things though and by mid-season we were basically where we needed to be, but how much easier it would have been if we had not had the wretched start we had. I put that more down to that clueless clown Wilkins myself. Pardew had played three league games and got four points not great but not terrible either then Wilkins comes in and in three league games (if you count MK dons) manages a total of zero points from nine if he had managed even three points we'd have been champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Think its very clear that the problems in pre-season were down to Pardew and his team. It was nothing to do with where they had problems, going to Interlaken was not a problem, it was what they did when they got there. From DC's comments it is quite clear that certain players (almost certainly Lambert & Lallana) were over-worked and handled very badly. Of course Richardson's injury was just bad luck, could have happened anywhere. I was concerned last pre-season with the players jumping off the bridge to swim in the river, in my opinion that was quite a foolish thing to do, but as far as I know no-one was hurt doing it. I think Pardew just didn't have a proper plan for pre-season, and got over-excited by his surroundings and forgot the basics. I think it was more old school manager with old school ideas meets new school chairmen with different ideas. The days of the old style manager given carte blanche to run the team his way are rapidly dissappering into history, with the money involved these days managers have to get used to chairman having a much bigger say in the way things are done. It will be second nature to new younger managers but some of the older managers are still living in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Intresting though that Connolly blames pre season but has been carrying that injury since he was at Sunderland, you have to wonder though how much of a factor pre-season really is though given how we finished this season. It does read like he was asked leading questions about pre-season tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 I put that more down to that clueless clown Wilkins myself. Pardew had played three league games and got four points not great but not terrible either then Wilkins comes in and in three league games (if you count MK dons) manages a total of zero points from nine if he had managed even three points we'd have been champions. how on earth can you blame a manager after 3 games or so....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 It's interesting that 9 months on from the Pardew sacking we still don't really know the truth of it. Losts of speculation and some of the guesses may be right. At the time, the pre-season didn't look that hard, more like a holiday followed by some easy games, but then the OS said it had been gruelling and now Connolly says so as well. Blaming pre-season last year for the bad start may be selective memory because Doddisalegend has already pointed out that Pardew got 4 points from the first 3 games which is not that bad. The home defeat to Plymouth was a shock, but the 4-0 away win at Bristol Rovers suggested things were changing, only then Pardew was out of the door. Who knows? Maybe Saints lost to Plymouth because the Pilgrims were so much better than Sutton, Barnet and Eastleigh, or were they demoralised by the home defeat to Reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 It's interesting that 9 months on from the Pardew sacking we still don't really know the truth of it. Losts of speculation and some of the guesses may be right. At the time, the pre-season didn't look that hard, more like a holiday followed by some easy games, but then the OS said it had been gruelling and now Connolly says so as well. Blaming pre-season last year for the bad start may be selective memory because Doddisalegend has already pointed out that Pardew got 4 points from the first 3 games which is not that bad. The home defeat to Plymouth was a shock, but the 4-0 away win at Bristol Rovers suggested things were changing, only then Pardew was out of the door. Who knows? Maybe Saints lost to Plymouth because the Pilgrims were so much better than Sutton, Barnet and Eastleigh, or were they demoralised by the home defeat to Reading! or that pre season was a shambles...beating the might bristol rovers is hardly a measure of success.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 It's interesting that 9 months on from the Pardew sacking we still don't really know the truth of it. Losts of speculation and some of the guesses may be right. At the time, the pre-season didn't look that hard, more like a holiday followed by some easy games, but then the OS said it had been gruelling and now Connolly says so as well. Blaming pre-season last year for the bad start may be selective memory because Doddisalegend has already pointed out that Pardew got 4 points from the first 3 games which is not that bad. The home defeat to Plymouth was a shock, but the 4-0 away win at Bristol Rovers suggested things were changing, only then Pardew was out of the door. Who knows? Maybe Saints lost to Plymouth because the Pilgrims were so much better than Sutton, Barnet and Eastleigh, or were they demoralised by the home defeat to Reading! Really not looking to pick a fight, but 4 points out of the first three games was a pretty shocking start considering how we ended the previous season. I think most fans were thinking a minimum of 7 from 9 ? I think next season, a reasonable minimum expectation from the first three games would be 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 Intresting though that Connolly blames pre season but has been carrying that injury since he was at Sunderland, you have to wonder though how much of a factor pre-season really is though given how we finished this season. Throughout that interview he does not tie any of his problems in with that pre-season, but old injuries that took a long time to clear up. He does specifically mention "Hopefully this will be a successful pre-season for the team because last year the pre-season workload actually caused a lot of injuries here." After the first two home games last season I knew something was very wrong and said so at the time. Looking back we seemed to go after things in the first half then run out of ideas in the second. We did look jaded but I had the over whelming impression that players just did not seem to care and a lot of players form was totally absent. Because this was the first proper pre-season we have had in ages, it took while to figure out that the players were unfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 He's back from the dead! David Connolly He's back from the dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 May, 2011 Share Posted 30 May, 2011 (edited) Pardew is not a fool. He won't make the same mistake twice. I wonder whether the players under his control now (i.e. Prem level) are able to withstand a harder pre-season regime? Possibly not - more fragile? He may well end up making the same mistake again....if he's not very careful. Remember the fitness levels in Prem. need to be considerably higher than those in CCC and especially L1. Without a FIT squad they'll be struggling, but too much strain and they'll have a poor start that they may never recover from. The real answer is to have squad players who ENJOY training and will keep continue to do light training - even during holidays. Those who just lay on the beach with a six pack and a new girlfriend may well return overweight and knackered. Edited 30 May, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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