Viking Warrior Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I have seen a couple of applications from people applying for jobs Each one says. The Job centre has told me I have have to apply for this job even though I dont want the job or wish to apply. I do not have any relevent skills that are suitable for this job. so please do not consider me for this job Are the Job Centre aware of these type of applications , How many out there also receive similar types of application comments ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Report them back to the job centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Report them back to the job centre. Because they are being honest ? If the Job Centres are prompting such applications then they are failing both the unemployed and the tax payer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Because they are being honest ? If the Job Centres are prompting such applications then they are failing both the unemployed and the tax payer. If they're not suited to the role that distinction can be made by the organisation that has been sent the CV. Why would they need someone to specify that for them? Unless that person just didn't want the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 If they think you're not trying, you're in trouble. First hint of that, they'll be on to the DSS, 'This ****'s no trying' and your Giros oot the window.. But try too hard -- And you might get the ****ing job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 (edited) If they're not suited to the role that distinction can be made by the organisation that has been sent the CV. Why would they need someone to specify that for them? Unless that person just didn't want the job. Surely the Job Centres should be able to filter the applicants in advance of submitting their details ? Their function is to get people into work and therefore to maximise the candidates chances by ensuring they have some sort of chance of being successful. How much time ( and money ) is wasted by employers having to process unnecessary paperwork and provide the feedback to enable the JCs to fill in their tick box sheets ? Edited 1 November, 2013 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Give them the job. That'll teach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 I ask you is there anybody out their in SWF Land who has led a life so sheltered or privileged that they are at all surprised to learn that this type of thing is going on? The bureaucracy and quota filling involved in obtaining JSA is so severe and burdensome now that unemployed people have little choice but to resort to this type of nonsense - the system requires them to in effect. When you put a series of hoops between the unemployed and the benefits they are entitled to by law, then it seems to me that officialdom has no grounds for complaint when jobseekers decide to jump right through them. In their situation I would do exactly the same - although I might be a bit more subtle about admitting it in writing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 Surely the Job Centres should be able to filter the applicants in advance of submitting their details ? Their function is to get people into work and therefore to maximise the candidates chances by ensuring they have some sort of chance of being successful. How much time ( and money ) is wasted by employers having to process unnecessary paperwork and provide the feedback to enable the JCs to fill in their tick box sheets ? Maybe the job centre did their job and did send over the correct cvs, who knows. The point is, there's only one real reason why someone would put such a statement on a job application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 1 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 1 November, 2013 These were application forms not cv's . It is sad to see .what you expect is people who apply for jobs to really sell themselves .these couple were not interested in working . I'm not surprised it happens but it is sad to see all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 If they think you're not trying, you're in trouble. First hint of that, they'll be on to the DSS, 'This ****'s no trying' and your Giros oot the window.. But try too hard -- And you might get the ****ing job. A little bit of speed is just the ticket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 A little bit of speed is just the ticket... Exactly! What's up with the kids today? You don't put that on the application, you just have a wee dab of speed and talk about pleasure in other people's leisure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 1 November, 2013 Share Posted 1 November, 2013 These were application forms not cv's . It is sad to see .what you expect is people who apply for jobs to really sell themselves .these couple were not interested in working . I'm not surprised it happens but it is sad to see all the same You haven't said whether they did have an appropriate skill set or whether you thought they could do the job. I've gone for jobs I didn't think I'd get (and didn't), but there are limits to the amount of time both job-seeker and employer want to waste on pointless job applications. The point is, there's only one real reason why someone would put such a statement on a job application. Sorry Sour Mash, there are other reasons, and tarring all the unemployed with that same big brush of yours is a nasty thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 As part of a power station construction I am involved with, it has been decided to recruit some of the local young guys who have no quals as part of helping in the local community etc. It is quite a rough area and you might think that it is an opportunity to some to gain some useful skills that will set them up longer term. Two started last week. One ****ed off at lunchtime on the first day and the other jacked it in before the week was up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Yes for the job in question yes they did gave the right skills and one was invited to interviewed but didn't even apologise for not turning up for interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_saint Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Yeah, the place I work get the supervisors to perform the interviews and whilst talking to mine he was telling me about some of the hundreds of applicants they get and how most tend to be unsuitable and then when it comes down to the ones who might be suitable, only about 20% of those who they've interviewed say they'd accept the job, most of the rest are just going through the motions to tick boxes for the DWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 Why would people want to work for a living when they can not work for a living and still live easy? I went to the job centre once looking for a job. They weren't interested. Went to see some bloke and he didn't even sit at his desk, nor offer me a seat - Just told me to keep looking for a job. What's all that about?! Luckily I went to an employment agency around the corner shortly after and got a job. This was in 2011 and I'm still there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 The Job Centre seems to have given up on its primary purpose - matching people and jobs - and now instead starts with the assumption that people are all trying to get the dole and avoid work. I had a friend who after a couple of frustrating months at the job centre (being forced to apply for jobs far below her skill set) managed to find herself a suitable role by herself. When she informed the job centre that she had a job starting in 4 weeks time, the response was that 4 weeks was too long to wait, so she would need to apply for other jobs in the meantime. The stupidity of her having a job to move to, but being forced to continue to apply for jobs she was over qualified for and had no intention of ever considering seems crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 You haven't said whether they did have an appropriate skill set or whether you thought they could do the job. I've gone for jobs I didn't think I'd get (and didn't), but there are limits to the amount of time both job-seeker and employer want to waste on pointless job applications. Sorry Sour Mash, there are other reasons, and tarring all the unemployed with that same big brush of yours is a nasty thing to do. What other reasons? And it's hardly a 'nasty' thing to say is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 November, 2013 Share Posted 2 November, 2013 You haven't said whether they did have an appropriate skill set or whether you thought they could do the job. I've gone for jobs I didn't think I'd get (and didn't), but there are limits to the amount of time both job-seeker and employer want to waste on pointless job applications. Sorry Sour Mash, there are other reasons, and tarring all the unemployed with that same big brush of yours is a nasty thing to do. What other reasons? And it's hardly a 'nasty' thing to say is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 Yes for the job in question yes they did gave the right skills and one was invited to interviewed but didn't even apologise for not turning up for interview Next time Mike, set it up. Arrange a regular contact at the Job Centre who is responsible for the applicants and will take your call by arrangement and is already aware of the reason for the call. As soon as the non-applicant makes the statement, ask them to wait, ring the number, tell the contact "Mr So in So says he doesn't want the job" then hand him/her the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 November, 2013 Share Posted 3 November, 2013 I think the applicant in the opening post should be applauded for not wasting the employer's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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