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Posted
4 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

So, you want to stop people voting if they have a different view to you and you wish death on people. What a lovely chap you are. 

You just don’t get it do you nic?

A friend of mine recently said that all Reform voters should be taken out and shot. I suppose you would take his words literally too?

What a gullible chap you are.

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Senator Ted Cruz in 2016: "Nobody wants somebody like that with their finger on the button. It's possible that if Donald was President we might wake up one morning and find he had nuked Denmark".

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Jimmy Kimmel outlines Trump's strategy;

1) Send ICE into Democrat run cities

2) Label people opposed to this as ANTIFA and Insurrectionists

3) Invoke the Insurrection Act and mobilise the Army for domestic deployment

4) Cancel the mid-term elections, ( which apparently are not needed as his Administration is doing such a GREAT JOB ! ).

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From CBS via the BBC;

"A couple says their six-month-old baby stopped breathing after ICE agents tear gassed them and their six children in their car, they told CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

Shawn and Destiny Jackson were driving with their children - an 11-year-old, a seven-year-old, four-year-old twins, a two-year-old and a six-month-old baby boy - when they got trapped between ICE agents and protesters.

"They stopped at my car, and they proceeded to yell in and said 'get out of here'. Well, they used profanity. And my husband screamed and said 'we're trying'," Destiny Jackson told CBS.

Jackson told CBS that she was concerned about pulling her car away while the ICE agents were nearby because of what happened with Renee Good.

Agents then placed a tear gas canister under the car, which had its windows open, she told CBS.

"Within seconds, there was a big boom and our car was up in the air and we slammed down and all of our airbags deployed and all of our doors locked. And tear gas just started forming, a ball of gas just started forming around the car," Jackson said.

By the time she was able to grab her six-month-old baby and give him CPR, he was foaming at the mouth and appeared lifeless.

"I couldn't even breathe myself, and all I remember is between every breath, I was saying, 'I'm going to give you every breath I have until you get yours back.'"

The Jacksons told CBS that all their children have physically recovered from the incident, but are having trouble sleeping after the trauma. "

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According to a former Department of Homeland Security Chief of Staff who held the position during Trump's first term, Donnie had been desperate to invoke the Insurrection Act during that first term, and at one point in 2019 he and other administration staff had to intervene to stop Trump at the last minute editing a televised speech in which he wanted to do so. This chap reckons the IA has been on the agenda since day #1 of the second term and Trump and Stephen Miller are actively working to enable it.

Posted
9 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

From CBS via the BBC;

"A couple says their six-month-old baby stopped breathing after ICE agents tear gassed them and their six children in their car, they told CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

Shawn and Destiny Jackson were driving with their children - an 11-year-old, a seven-year-old, four-year-old twins, a two-year-old and a six-month-old baby boy - when they got trapped between ICE agents and protesters.

"They stopped at my car, and they proceeded to yell in and said 'get out of here'. Well, they used profanity. And my husband screamed and said 'we're trying'," Destiny Jackson told CBS.

Jackson told CBS that she was concerned about pulling her car away while the ICE agents were nearby because of what happened with Renee Good.

Agents then placed a tear gas canister under the car, which had its windows open, she told CBS.

"Within seconds, there was a big boom and our car was up in the air and we slammed down and all of our airbags deployed and all of our doors locked. And tear gas just started forming, a ball of gas just started forming around the car," Jackson said.

By the time she was able to grab her six-month-old baby and give him CPR, he was foaming at the mouth and appeared lifeless.

"I couldn't even breathe myself, and all I remember is between every breath, I was saying, 'I'm going to give you every breath I have until you get yours back.'"

The Jacksons told CBS that all their children have physically recovered from the incident, but are having trouble sleeping after the trauma. "

Jeez. Poor people. 

It's worth noting the ICE recruitment ads and the music used. No attempt to disguise what they are and the agenda. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, egg said:

Jeez. Poor people. 

It's worth noting the ICE recruitment ads and the music used. No attempt to disguise what they are and the agenda. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-busted-handing-job-offer-to-anti-trump-journalist-without-vetting/

"The Department of Homeland Security’s claim that it did not give a job with ICE to a reporter without proper vetting was contradicted by the agency’s own portal.

Afghan veteran-turned-reporter Laura Jedeed detailed in Slate this week how she tested Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s mass hiring campaign by submitting an application—and getting quickly pushed through the hiring process.

Immediately after the story was published, DHS rebuked Jedeed’s claim, arguing that she was “NEVER” offered a job with the agency. But screenshots and videos shared by Jedeed from the agency’s job portal contradict the agency’s claims and bolster other reports that ICE’s hiring methods lack oversight. "

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"Top federal prosecutors in Minnesota have resigned after the Department of Justice pushed to investigate the widow of Renee Good and rebuffed an investigation into the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer who fatally shot her last week."

They were told that they will not be investigating the shooter, which is established standard practice in shootings involving Federal agents, but rather how Renee Good snd her wife were the "instigators" of the incident.

 

This apparently brings the number of lawyers who have left the DoJ by various means in the last year to 10 thousand.

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48 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

"Top federal prosecutors in Minnesota have resigned after the Department of Justice pushed to investigate the widow of Renee Good and rebuffed an investigation into the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer who fatally shot her last week."

They were told that they will not be investigating the shooter, which is established standard practice in shootings involving Federal agents, but rather how Renee Good snd her wife were the "instigators" of the incident.

 

This apparently brings the number of lawyers who have left the DoJ by various means in the last year to 10 thousand.

I don’t know if this is true but I read that Ross, the ICE shooter, has received $1m from a GoFundMe page???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/01/13/gofundme-for-ice-agent-who-killed-renee-good-is-soaring-amid-calls-to-take-it-down/

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Posted
5 hours ago, egg said:

Threats to slap tariffs on countries who oppose his theft of Greenland. Control and coercion on the global stage. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qpy952xvno

 

What a prize prick, said that at a meeting about rural healthcare with his administration having removed cover for so many of his own citizens who he couldn’t give a toss about.

Russian and Chinese activity is a problem there but fucking the Danish and other NATO members over isn’t the way to do business. He’s really tanking domestically and the vast majority of the US public polled about Greenland of all perspectives are very opposed to it. 

Posted
8 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

What a prize prick, said that at a meeting about rural healthcare with his administration having removed cover for so many of his own citizens who he couldn’t give a toss about.

Russian and Chinese activity is a problem there but fucking the Danish and other NATO members over isn’t the way to do business. He’s really tanking domestically and the vast majority of the US public polled about Greenland of all perspectives are very opposed to it. 

Perhaps he's not fussed about what the think because he has no intentions of letting them have a say in the mid terms. This genuinely feels like a bloke out of control, doing what he wants, and surrounded by like minded people. 

Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

You just don’t get it do you nic?

A friend of mine recently said that all Reform voters should be taken out and shot. I suppose you would take his words literally too?

What a gullible chap you are.

What lovely company you keep! They say you’re the average of the 5 people you spend most time with. your mates

Wannabe Reform supporter murder 

trump supporter

mixed race bar maid

Muslim barber 

Weak minded benefits scrounger 

 

No wonder you’re like you are. How did you respond when this fantasy incident happened?

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Posted
22 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

You just don’t get it do you nic?

A friend of mine recently said that all Reform voters should be taken out and shot. I suppose you would take his words literally too?

What a gullible chap you are.

Own it you coward. You know what you meant. Don't try making excuses after. If you had your way, many of us would not be allowed to vote. You said it and you think it. You also clearly wish death upon trump. You said it not once but twice. Be a man and own it. Accept your words. Dont rum away after being caught out. 

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Own it you coward. You know what you meant. Don't try making excuses after. If you had your way, many of us would not be allowed to vote. You said it and you think it. You also clearly wish death upon trump. You said it not once but twice. Be a man and own it. Accept your words. Dont rum away after being caught out. 

You are unravelling faster than Trump. I am not “rumming” anywhere. I don’t drink rum.

There must be plenty of English teachers in Thailand. Go and find one and ask them what hyperbole and figuratively speaking mean.

As for Trump, the world would be a better and safer place without the likes of him, Putin and Netanyahu, none of whom give a toss about the lives of the very people they are meant to serve and protect.

If you have a problem with that statement it says a lot more about you than it does me.

To paraphrase the brilliant Mark Twain, whilst I don’t wish death on anybody, I am greatly looking forward to reading the obituaries of these three murderous, lawless bastards.

As for voting, do I think that the world would be a far better place if the fathers of those who vote for people like Trump and Farage wore condoms more frequently when they were younger, I would have to say yes. Sadly, we are where we are and, through history, live with the consequences of the people who vote for these disgraceful examples of the human race.

I hope that we now understand each other?

Rather than worrying about my attitude to would be dictators, you should be more concerned that you spend more time calling out a complete stranger on a football forum and seemingly no time at all calling out the disgusting behaviour of some of the people who are voted in for public service. Maybe it is you who should be calling out your own moral values?

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You are unravelling faster than Trump. I am not “rumming” anywhere. I don’t drink rum.

There must be plenty of English teachers in Thailand. Go and find one and ask them what hyperbole and figuratively speaking mean.

As for Trump, the world would be a better and safer place without the likes of him, Putin and Netanyahu, none of whom give a toss about the lives of the very people they are meant to serve and protect.

If you have a problem with that statement it says a lot more about you than it does me.

To paraphrase the brilliant Mark Twain, whilst I don’t wish death on anybody, I am greatly looking forward to reading the obituaries of these three murderous, lawless bastards.

 

So you accept you do wish him and others dead then. Cool. At least we can see just how vile you are.

And I note you are not mentioning the other fascist statement you made about how you wished some people were not allowed the vote. Another thing you meant but deny. Utter vile fascist coward. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, egg said:

Perhaps he's not fussed about what the think because he has no intentions of letting them have a say in the mid terms. This genuinely feels like a bloke out of control, doing what he wants, and surrounded by like minded people. 

Their army needs to take him and Vance out to save their constitution if that happens. Arrest the Project 2025 authors and Bannon to boot. Martial law with pending full and free elections in both Houses and Presidential. 

Posted
23 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

You just don’t get it do you nic?

A friend of mine recently said that all Reform voters should be taken out and shot. I suppose you would take his words literally too?

What a gullible chap you are.

Don’t take everything people say literately 

says the guy who got all angry on the circle of trust thread as he thought is was a serious thread 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Don’t take everything people say literately 

says the guy who got all angry on the circle of trust thread as he thought is was a serious thread 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Wait, what? Of course it's serious!

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41 minutes ago, Turkish said:

...the circle of trust thread as he thought is was a serious thread 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I thought it was being used as a reference point by Saints' recruitment team.

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Trump will put 10% tariffs on all goods from us Denmark etc from 1st February if we don’t back down about Greenland.

From 1st June the tariffs will be increased to 25%.

WAC

Putin will be throwing another party tonight.
 

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Trump will put 10% tariffs on all goods from us Denmark etc from 1st February if we don’t back down about Greenland.

From 1st June the tariffs will be increased to 25%.

WAC

Putin will be throwing another party tonight.
 

Apparently it is 'clear' that China wants Greenland.

How the fuck would they take it ?

 

Trump is a grade A cunt.

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Rather than a cunt, he is is that spolied brat of a kid who screamed "I WANT, I WANT, I WANT !" and nobody ever said no.

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This is the problem with narcissists, particularly a malignant narcissist. It doesn’t matter how much you suck up to them, what you give them, how you please them, the clock sets back to zero the next day and it all starts again. His second state visit here is long forgotten and counts for nothing now. 

If we give in to his demands again there will be more in future. Time to man up in Europe. If only we were part of a economic union with the rest of Europe eh?

Posted
45 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Apparently it is 'clear' that China wants Greenland.

How the fuck would they take it ?

 

Trump is a grade A cunt.

EDIT;

Rather than a cunt, he is is that spolied brat of a kid who screamed "I WANT, I WANT, I WANT !" and nobody ever said no.

The issue we have is we don't have a sustainable nuclear deterrent without the US being on our side. It'll be interesting to see which direction we go here. The French are better placed to tell him to fuck off. 

Would be nice if China did a press release to say that he he's talking bollox and that they have zero interest in it. 

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10 minutes ago, egg said:

The issue we have is we don't have a sustainable nuclear deterrent without the US being on our side. It'll be interesting to see which direction we go here. The French are better placed to tell him to fuck off. 

Would be nice if China did a press release to say that he he's talking bollox and that they have zero interest in it. 

So because he has more nukes we just let him ride roughshod over treaties and alliances ? There is nothing to be gained strategically by the US owning Greenland that cannot be acheived already.

Trump won't stand up to Putin but shits on those who are supposed to be his allies. 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

So because he has more nukes we just let him ride roughshod over treaties and alliances ? There is nothing to be gained strategically by the US owning Greenland that cannot be acheived already.

Trump won't stand up to Putin but shits on those who are supposed to be his allies. 

Of course not, but, without a nuclear deterrent, and US support as part of NATO or otherwise, we're vulnerable. 

Are you comfortable seeing us without an effective nuclear deterrent? 

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Trump needs the European bases and support. Maybe we should all threaten to tell him to pull out? Even if we back down there is no guarantee that we can rely on Trump if it comes down to nukes.

Posted
2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Trump needs the European bases and support. Maybe we should all threaten to tell him to pull out? Even if we back down there is no guarantee that we can rely on Trump if it comes down to nukes.

Why does he need them? They're relevant to help us (or worse), but assuming he remains an ally and committed to to NATO, we need him to have them.

Posted (edited)
50 minutes ago, egg said:

Of course not, but, without a nuclear deterrent, and US support as part of NATO or otherwise, we're vulnerable. 

Are you comfortable seeing us without an effective nuclear deterrent? 

The vast majority of countries around the World do not have nuclear weapons. The existence of such weapons has deterred absolutely nothing - wars are being fought every day, even by Nuclear powers..

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31 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The vast majority of countries around the World do not have nuclear weapons. The existence of such weapons has deterred absolutely nothing - wars are being fought every day, even by Nuclear powers..

Personally I'd prefer us to have a nuclear deterrent than not. They serve a purpose - Ukraine would never have been invaded if they still had theirs. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Trump is a cunt. The US already has access to Greenland, they can build bases there already as they want to.

There's a load of agreements in place too. 

Yep, although they already have bases there, but have chosen not to use them. They can also dig whatever they want out of the ground. It's imperialism. 

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Greenland is part of Denmark. Denmark is a member of NATO. Greenland is therefore part of NATO.

 

If Russia or, in some wild fantasy, China tried to invade Greenland then Article 5 of the NATO Treaty is automatically invoked and all NATO members retaliate.

 

This is NOT a matter of US national security. It is a Trump vanity project aimed at looting Greenland's potential mineral wealth.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Greenland is part of Denmark. Denmark is a member of NATO. Greenland is therefore part of NATO.

 

If Russia or, in some wild fantasy, China tried to invade Greenland then Article 5 of the NATO Treaty is automatically invoked and all NATO members retaliate.

 

This is NOT a matter of US national security. It is a Trump vanity project aimed at looting Greenland's potential mineral wealth.

It's more than that.

Greenland have said that the US can access all the minerals they want. 

If Trump was committed to NATO, and complying with Article 5, he'd leave Greenland alone. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, egg said:

It's more than that.

Greenland have said that the US can access all the minerals they want. 

If Trump was committed to NATO, and complying with Article 5, he'd leave Greenland alone. 

Distraction from ICE - get lots more ice.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, egg said:

Why does he need them? They're relevant to help us (or worse), but assuming he remains an ally and committed to to NATO, we need him to have them.

He is using our bases and those in Europe to support his  military operations. Without them his operations are screwed unless he uses nukes. Why do you think the Chagos Island base is so important. The US is weaker without the support of the rest of us.

Allies don’t threaten you and threaten to take other allies territory. If he was committed to NATO why threaten NATO allies with financial penalties if they don’t hand over land governed by a NATO ally? 

He is no more trustworthy than Putin.

“Yes, the U.S. relies heavily on its European bases for strategic global reach, acting as essential hubs for 
NATO operations, power projection, and logistics, especially for operations in the Middle Eastand Africa, with major facilities in Germany, Italy, and the UK significantly supporting U.S. and allied military readiness and deterring adversaries like Russia. 
Key Roles of U.S. Bases in Europe:
  • Launchpad for Global Operations: Bases like Ramstein Air Base in Germany are crucial staging grounds for deployments to other regions, including Africa and the Middle East.
  • NATO Backbone: These bases house key NATO command structures, like the Allied Air Command, solidifying transatlantic defense and U.S. commitment.
  • Deterrence: A strong U.S. presence deters potential adversaries, particularly Russia, and reassures allies, making Europe a critical front line for U.S. security.
  • Logistical Hubs: Facilities like Naval Support Activity (NSA) Naples and Naval Station Rota in Italy and Spain provide vital logistical support for naval and air forces in the Mediterranean and beyond.
  • Training & Readiness: They allow for critical joint training with European allies, enhancing interoperability and collective defense capabilities. 
Examples of Key Bases:
  • Ramstein Air Base, Germany:HQ for US Air Forces in Europe (USAFE) and Allied Air Command.
  • Lakenheath & Mildenhall, UK:Key Air Force bases hosting significant personnel.
  • Aviano Air Base, Italy: Supports the only U.S. fighter wing south of the Alps, a key NATO hub.
  • Rota, Spain: A major logistics hub for U.S. and NATO forces. 
In essence, these European bases are seen as indispensable for projecting U.S. power, maintaining European security, and ensuring U.S. strategic interests are met globally, despite ongoing discussions about burden-sharing within NATO. “


 

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Posted
3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

 

He is no more trustworthy than Putin.

 

 

Honestly, as ridiculous as it sounds, I think Putin is more trustworthy these days.

They're clearly both massive, massive bell ends but at least Putin has an ounce of intelligence so understands the repercussions of what he does. 

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There won't be any tarrifs.  If there's one thing the orange baby is good at, it's backing down and pretending nothing happened.  We've been here before!

Would be a show of strength though for reciprocal tarrifs of 20% to be announced, rising to 50% (double Donny's tariffs) knowing they will never be implemented anyway.

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9 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

He is using our bases and those in Europe to support his  military operations. Without them his operations are screwed unless he uses nukes. Why do you think the Chagos Island base is so important. The US is weaker without the support of the rest of us.

Allies don’t threaten you and threaten to take other allies territory. If he was committed to NATO why threaten NATO allies with financial penalties if they don’t hand over land governed by a NATO ally? 

He is no more trustworthy than Putin.

 

“Yes, the U.S. relies heavily on its European bases for strategic global reach, acting as essential hubs for 
NATO operations, power projection, and logistics, especially for operations in the Middle Eastand Africa, with major facilities in Germany, Italy, and the UK significantly supporting U.S. and allied military readiness and deterring adversaries like Russia. 
Key Roles of U.S. Bases in Europe:
  • Launchpad for Global Operations: Bases like Ramstein Air Base in Germany are crucial staging grounds for deployments to other regions, including Africa and the Middle East.
  • NATO Backbone: These bases house key NATO command structures, like the Allied Air Command, solidifying transatlantic defense and U.S. commitment.
  • Deterrence: A strong U.S. presence deters potential adversaries, particularly Russia, and reassures allies, making Europe a critical front line for U.S. security.
  • Logistical Hubs: Facilities like Naval Support Activity (NSA) Naples and Naval Station Rota in Italy and Spain provide vital logistical support for naval and air forces in the Mediterranean and beyond.
  • Training & Readiness: They allow for critical joint training with European allies, enhancing interoperability and collective defense capabilities. 
Examples of Key Bases:
  • Ramstein Air Base, Germany:HQ for US Air Forces in Europe (USAFE) and Allied Air Command.
  • Lakenheath & Mildenhall, UK:Key Air Force bases hosting significant personnel.
  • Aviano Air Base, Italy: Supports the only U.S. fighter wing south of the Alps, a key NATO hub.
  • Rota, Spain: A major logistics hub for U.S. and NATO forces. 
In essence, these European bases are seen as indispensable for projecting U.S. power, maintaining European security, and ensuring U.S. strategic interests are met globally, despite ongoing discussions about burden-sharing within NATO. “


 

That doesn't address that US strength in Europe is, assuming the US remain an ally and committed to NATO, more beneficial to Europe than the US. Take that away and Europe has only got what Europe can provide. If this whole charade is intended as a wake up call to Europe, I suspect it's worked. 

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22 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Their army needs to take him and Vance out to save their constitution if that happens. Arrest the Project 2025 authors and Bannon to boot. Martial law with pending full and free elections in both Houses and Presidential. 

Read a rather ridiculous tweet that Trump was reigning (sic) MAGA in and we ought to be  really worried about what follows on.

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2 hours ago, egg said:

That doesn't address that US strength in Europe is, assuming the US remain an ally and committed to NATO, more beneficial to Europe than the US. Take that away and Europe has only got what Europe can provide. If this whole charade is intended as a wake up call to Europe, I suspect it's worked. 

You are assuming that Trump has functioning, normal cognitive abilities. That is some assumption.

Posted
2 hours ago, egg said:

That doesn't address that US strength in Europe is, assuming the US remain an ally and committed to NATO, more beneficial to Europe than the US. Take that away and Europe has only got what Europe can provide. If this whole charade is intended as a wake up call to Europe, I suspect it's worked. 

Any prospect of fighting a war with NATO - trade and/or military isn’t something the Senate will allow. He’d need two thirds of a majority to buy 🇬🇱 and the price tag would be unaffordable when he’s already tanking their economy back towards Great Depression levels.
Just because the morons around him support it because they fear him and Vance will harass them if they don’t (look at what Trump is doing to John Bolton) it doesn’t mean a legislative assembly will allow him to do it. His only option would be by force and UK and Europe would have to go to war with Trump because Denmark is part of NATO. 

Posted
35 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You are assuming that Trump has functioning, normal cognitive abilities. That is some assumption.

I'm not sure of the relevance of that to what we've been discussing. 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Any prospect of fighting a war with NATO - trade and/or military isn’t something the Senate will allow. He’d need two thirds of a majority to buy 🇬🇱 and the price tag would be unaffordable when he’s already tanking their economy back towards Great Depression levels.
Just because the morons around him support it because they fear him and Vance will harass them if they don’t (look at what Trump is doing to John Bolton) it doesn’t mean a legislative assembly will allow him to do it. His only option would be by force and UK and Europe would have to go to war with Trump because Denmark is part of NATO. 

Trump seems to think that he can do what he likes without recourse to the senate. He just cites "national security" and uses executive orders. I'd be more aligned with your point if I had any faith that this lunatic would respect rules, decency, allies, or democracy. Alas, he doesn't respect any of that, and is focused on "winning, which is another way of saying getting his own way. 

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Just now, egg said:

Trump seems to think that he can do what he likes without recourse to the senate. He just cites "national security" and uses executive orders. I'd be more aligned with your point if I had any faith that this lunatic would respect rules, decency, allies, or democracy. Alas, he doesn't respect any of that, and is focused on "winning, which is another way of saying getting his own way. 

His own Senate would impeach him - the GOP are growing increasingly uneasy and any prospect of conflict with NATO members would be beyond the pale. 

Agree on your analysis of Trump 💯 and the US is going to have to look seriously at how someone like him can be barred from being put forward let alone being elected. 

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Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

the GOP are growing increasingly uneasy and any prospect of conflict with NATO members would be beyond the pale. 

 

80% chance quoted today of the Democrats having the House post mid-terms and of course they have sole power to impeach. 33 senate seats up for grabs too in November so the balance of power to try and convict might shift also. He's between a rock and a hard place a bit like Netanyahu has been in Israel.

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23 minutes ago, Winnersaint said:

80% chance quoted today of the Democrats having the House post mid-terms and of course they have sole power to impeach. 33 senate seats up for grabs too in November so the balance of power to try and convict might shift also. He's between a rock and a hard place a bit like Netanyahu has been in Israel.

Assuming the mid-terms happen.

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