Guided Missile Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Trump. I liked him when I first read "Art of the Deal" back in 1987. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world peace, fair treatment for American workers and jobs for minorities is OK by me. It just shows what a successful businessman can do, compared to a career politician. I look forward to the Nobel Prize presentation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 (edited) Trump has certainly proved correct my prediction -made two years ago that free trade would not have an ally in the White House whoever won the US election. Alas Jihadi John took the opposite side of the bet and has predictably been made to look a halfwit Edited 11 June, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 Trump imposes tarriffs as a sign that he's a 'Big Man', then sulks like a baby and starts slinging playground insults around when everybody else starts retaliating in kind. Q - How many Chapter 11 bankruptcies have his companies applied for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 Trump imposes tarriffs as a sign that he's a 'Big Man', then sulks like a baby and starts slinging playground insults around when everybody else starts retaliating in kind. Q - How many Chapter 11 bankruptcies have his companies applied for ? what has he done wrong exactly? he will whack sanctions on goods, we will all scramble round for a better deal, he will win. As Johnson said, he goes in hard, creates chaos and clearly that will mean better terms for his country. what ever France or Canada said about him, none of them really challenged the claims he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 what has he done wrong exactly? he will whack sanctions on goods, we will all scramble round for a better deal, he will win. As Johnson said, he goes in hard, creates chaos and clearly that will mean better terms for his country. what ever France or Canada said about him, none of them really challenged the claims he made. Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Trump. I liked him when I first read "Art of the Deal" back in 1987. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world peace, fair treatment for American workers and jobs for minorities is OK by me. It just shows what a successful businessman can do, compared to a career politician. I look forward to the Nobel Prize presentation... He didn't write Art of the Deal though. And I'm not sure someone with as many bankruptcies as he has had can be classified 'successful' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 He didn't write Art of the Deal though. And I'm not sure someone with as many bankruptcies as he has had can be classified 'successful' Are you referring to Donald Trump or the OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 Even his #2 BFF Putin, ( seeing as Kim seems to be his #1 BFF for now ), says that the US tariffs are actually 'sanctions'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 Are you referring to Donald Trump or the OP? Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 If he can just find a way past the constitution and those pesky checks and balances, I'm sure he will at least get the trains running on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 Of all the countries he was likely to declare war on, I didn't expect Canada to be the first target. I'm looking forward to that free trade deal with the US that Boris told us about....should be finalised any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 11 June, 2018 Share Posted 11 June, 2018 All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Trump. I liked him when I first read "Art of the Deal" back in 1987. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world peace, fair treatment for American workers and jobs for minorities is OK by me. It just shows what a successful businessman can do, compared to a career politician. I look forward to the Nobel Prize presentation... All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Hitler. I liked him when I first read "Mein Kampf" back in 1925. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world dominion, fair treatment for German workers and jobs for non-semites is OK by me. It just shows what a successful demagogue can do, compared to a serious politician. I look forward to the Nuremberg Rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Hitler. I liked him when I first read "Mein Kampf" back in 1925. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world dominion, fair treatment for German workers and jobs for non-semites is OK by me. It just shows what a successful demagogue can do, compared to a serious politician. I look forward to the Nuremberg Rallies. Too subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Hitler. I liked him when I first read "Mein Kampf" back in 1925. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world dominion, fair treatment for German workers and jobs for non-semites is OK by me. It just shows what a successful demagogue can do, compared to a serious politician. I look forward to the Nuremberg Rallies. Think it is quite easy to identify which posters would be willing to work as a prism camp officer. Fck any integrity or character. Same pant p1ssers who scare easily and have no backbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Looks like trump has had a few major wins recently with the booming economy and now this historic summit with Kim Jong Un. Maybe he's not as appaling as some have made out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Looks like trump has had a few major wins recently with the booming economy and now this historic summit with Kim Jong Un. Maybe he's not as appaling as some have made out? No surprise to see you supporting him. Oh, and yes, he is as appalling as "some" (most of the right minded eastern and western world) have made out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 The Art of the Deal was written by Tony Schwartz, he has characterised it as putting lipstick on a pig! He has also stated “I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is.” Schwartz a young magazine writer also out-dealed Trump by securing 50% of the advance and 50% of the sales, ghost writers normally get 20% of each, so the great deal maker is no such thing, he was influenced by his ego not his business acumen (lack of it). The summit with Kim is also a farce as previous Presidents could have met with him but refused without Kim and previously his father ceasing all nucleate and ICBM research and development as a pre-requisite for a meeting. Trump is a chancer and self publicists who fools the fools easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 The OP has a point ... Who needs the support of liberal "luvvies" and democratic politicians like Justin Trudeau when you can have lovely friends like dictator Kim Jong Un. Do you know that without him the opening ceremony at the last winter Olympics wouldn't have taken place ? Why do we bother to cosy up to politicians from liberal democracies ? It is surely a much better strategy to make friends with people who feed political opponents to live pigs?? The world is getting stranger and stranger … and I am not just talking about the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Looks like trump has had a few major wins recently with the booming economy and now this historic summit with Kim Jong Un. Maybe he's not as appaling as some have made out? What would you say are the three major changes Trump has made to aid the economy in the 16 months since he took office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Trump talking about the economic potential he sees in North Korea: He says he has seen "great beaches" in the background of footage of North Korea's military drills. "I explained to them you could have the best hotels in the world," Trump says. "Think of it from a real estate perspective," he adds. Funniest quote of the day. The Don is a legend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2018 The OP has a point ... Who needs the support of liberal "luvvies" and democratic politicians like Justin Trudeau when you can have lovely friends like dictator Kim Jong Un. Do you know that without him the opening ceremony at the last winter Olympics wouldn't have taken place ? Why do we bother to cosy up to politicians from liberal democracies ? It is surely a much better strategy to make friends with people who feed political opponents to live pigs?? The world is getting stranger and stranger … and I am not just talking about the OP. Is that the same Justin Trudeau whose father had a close relationship with that well known dictator, Castro and on his death, released a statement mourning the loss of a “remarkable leader”? As the LA Times said, Trudeau is a useful idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 (edited) No surprise to see you supporting him. Oh, and yes, he is as appalling as "some" (most of the right minded eastern and western world) have made out.Oh yes. Suggesting his meeting with Kim Jong Un is a good thing amounts to "support" in your crazy world. There's no shades of grey in soggy land. Kim is an evil dictator, but if this meeting assists in securing less nuclear weapons in the world and less tensions on the Korean perninsula then I don't cere how it makes Trump look. Some people would prefer Trump had no sort of success at all simply because he is trump which just shows where their priorities lie. I can't understand a mindset that would prefer trump to fail in everything he does rather than hoping that he is successful because it would be a positive thing. No surprise that that's your mindset soggy because you'd prefer to feel smug and good about how morally superior you are compared to everyone else rather than achieve anything substantial. Edited 12 June, 2018 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 (edited) What would you say are the three major changes Trump has made to aid the economy in the 16 months since he took office? The economy has grown virtually in line with the economy he inherited from Obama - this despite a trillion dollar tax cut that's done away with any pretence of fiscal responsibility. Edited 12 June, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Think it is quite easy to identify which posters would be willing to work as a prism camp officer. A "prism camp"? Is that where the inmates finally see the light? I'll get me coat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 So, basically, he just wants to build some trashy golf resort there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkonOkereke Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 How much Oil does North Korea have? Only reason that tit with oceans of someone elses hair must be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 (edited) Is that the same Justin Trudeau whose father had a close relationship with that well known dictator, Castro and on his death, released a statement mourning the loss of a “remarkable leader”? As the LA Times said, Trudeau is a useful idiot... Thatcher & Pinochet Blair & Gaddafi Nixon & Mao Thatcher & Shah of Iran Rumsfeld & Saddam Hussein etc., etc. [btw, Castro was a "remarkable man"] Edited 12 June, 2018 by Hamilton Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2018 [btw, Castro was a "remarkable man"] You lost any credibility when you equated Trump to Hitler. There is a special place in hell for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 You lost any credibility when you equated Trump to Hitler. There is a special place in hell for you... I didn't "equate" Trump to Hitler. I parodied your OP in a satirical manner. The jest wasn't aimed at Trump; it was aimed at you. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2018 I didn't "equate" Trump to Hitler. I parodied your OP in a satirical manner. The jest wasn't aimed at Trump; it was aimed at you. HTH And people say Canadians don't have a sense of humour. First electing Trudeau and now this. Hillarious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 And people say Canadians don't have a sense of humour. First electing Trudeau and now this. Hillarious... Your point is ... what exactly is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 I didn't "equate" Trump to Hitler. I parodied your OP in a satirical manner. The jest wasn't aimed at Trump; it was aimed at you. HTHI did point out that it was too subtle. GM has an American understanding of irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 I did point out that it was too subtle. GM has an American understanding of irony. Ha, ha. You win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Is that the same Justin Trudeau whose father had a close relationship with that well known dictator, Castro and on his death, released a statement mourning the loss of a “remarkable leader”? As the LA Times said, Trudeau is a useful idiot... ... and what exactly has that to do with the price of fish ? As the New York Times states Trump has an uncanny ability to pick fights with his friends and embrace long standing enemies. Let's hope that the jihadists's much anticipated trade deal between the US and UK doesn't get shafted by the vagaries of such an erratic president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Oh yes. Suggesting his meeting with Kim Jong Un is a good thing amounts to "support" in your crazy world. There's no shades of grey in soggy land. Kim is an evil dictator, but if this meeting assists in securing less nuclear weapons in the world and less tensions on the Korean perninsula then I don't cere how it makes Trump look. Some people would prefer Trump had no sort of success at all simply because he is trump which just shows where their priorities lie. I can't understand a mindset that would prefer trump to fail in everything he does rather than hoping that he is successful because it would be a positive thing. No surprise that that's your mindset soggy because you'd prefer to feel smug and good about how morally superior you are compared to everyone else rather than achieve anything substantial. So you're for scrapping Trident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 (edited) So you're for scrapping Trident?Yes assuming that all other nuclear nations follow suit. I assume you aren't seriously trying to equate America, France or the UK having nuclear weapons with the likes of North Korea? Morally there really isn't any comparison but yes I would prefer less nuclear weapons in the world in general. The likes of corbyn have been banging on about the evil capitalist pigs engaging with their enemies for ages. As an ardent supporter I assume you see this move as a positive thing? Edited 12 June, 2018 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Yes assuming that all other nuclear nations follow suit. I assume you aren't seriously trying to equate America, France or the UK having nuclear weapons with the likes of North Korea? Morally there really isn't any comparison but yes I would prefer less nuclear weapons in the world in general. The likes of corbyn have been banging on about the evil capitalist pigs engaging with their enemies for ages. As an ardent supporter I assume you see this move as a positive thing? I'm just glad you and Trump have come round to JC's thinking. #jc4pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 I'm just glad you and Trump have come round to JC's thinking. #jc4pmReal shame about all the other stuff that let's him down #forthemanynotthejew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Real shame about all the other stuff that let's him down #forthemanynotthejew Still promoting that stitch up? Lol. Try looking at islamophobia in the Tory party and UKIP. See Baroness Warsi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Still promoting that stitch up? Lol. Try looking at islamophobia in the Tory party and UKIP. See Baroness Warsi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 ... It's not whataboutery when the accusation is a lie in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 ... Says the poster whose first instinct -whenever confronted by violence on the right- is to dredge up the latest trivial example of a few lefties shouting down an altrght speaker on some two-bit college campus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Says the poster whose first instinct -whenever confronted by violence on the right- is to dredge up the latest trivial example of a few lefties shouting down an altrght speaker on some two-bit college campus [emoji38]Incorrect. I condemn far right violence, I also condemn far left violence. Not sure I've seen anything from jonnyboy condemning the 'pockets' of anti semitism from within the Labour Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Incorrect. I condemn far right violence, I also condemn far left violence. Not sure I've seen anything from jonnyboy condemning the 'pockets' of anti semitism from within the Labour Party. No you equivocate and evade, seemingly unwilling to admit that empirically far right violence is a much more significant problem than far left violence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 No you equivocate and evade, seemingly unwilling to admit that empirically far right violence is a much more significant problem than far left violence.Well that's a completely different question which involves a number of different definitions that I doubt we will agree over. I think what we both have now established though is that I haven't failed to condemn far right violence by immediately bringing up far left violence as you spuriously claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Well that's a completely different question which involves a number of different definitions that I doubt we will agree over. I think what we both have now established though is that I haven't failed to condemn far right violence by immediately bringing up far left violence as you spuriously claimed. Exhibit A. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Exhibit A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Exhibit A.Ah I see so you claimed that I somehow condone far right violence by immediately bringing up far left violence as some sort of whattaboutery tactic in a similar way that jonnyboy does whenever someone brings up anti semitism in Labour. I dispute your statement- because it isn't true- you then change the subject to discuss the scale of violence on the right and left. You then say I'm "evading" because I signal no desire to veer way off topic to discuss violence rates on the right and left and after I've previously condemned all violence? Still no condemnation of anti semitism in the Labour Party by jonnyboy or any sort of recognition that reducing tensions in Korea is a good thing. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 [emoji38]... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 June, 2018 Share Posted 12 June, 2018 Ah I see so you claimed that I somehow condone far right violence by immediately bringing up far left violence as some sort of whattaboutery tactic in a similar way that jonnyboy does whenever someone brings up anti semitism in Labour. I dispute your statement- because it isn't true- you then change the subject to discuss the scale of violence on the right and left. You then say I'm "evading" because I signal no desire to veer way off topic to discuss violence rates on the right and left and after I've previously condemned all violence? Still no condemnation of anti semitism in the Labour Party by jonnyboy or any sort of recognition that reducing tensions in Korea is a good thing. Funny that. Um post #37, I expressed my gladness about the overall situation. And then you went all off topic and foamy Daily Mail about anti semitism (and still are). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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