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hypochondriac

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16 minutes ago, egg said:

For a start, the videos you laughed at, show elderly folk being arrested during peaceful process. 

Yes, their peaceful protest involved the name of the newly proscribed organisation, but I see the protest in part as being against that proclamation. 

Why were they arrested? Was it for peaceful protest?

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19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Why were they arrested? Was it for peaceful protest?

Were they protesting peacefully? 

hypochondriac

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1 hour ago, egg said:

Were they protesting peacefully? 

Aren't you the one who routinely says I don't answer questions? Were these people arrested for peacefully protesting, or was it for something else?

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19 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Aren't you the one who routinely says I don't answer questions? Were these people arrested for peacefully protesting, or was it for something else?

Were they protesting peacefully? It's a simple yes or no, but I'll assume that you agree that they were unless you say otherwise. 

And we know why they were arrested. Stupid of you to question it. 

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hypochondriac

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7 minutes ago, egg said:

Were they protesting peacefully? It's a simple yes or no, but I'll assume that you agree that they were unless you say otherwise. 

And we know why they were arrested. Stupid of you to question it. 

So the answer is they weren't arrested for peacefully protesting. So whether they were peaceful or not is an irrelevance. They were always free to protest peacefully.

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So the answer is they weren't arrested for peacefully protesting. So whether they were peaceful or not is an irrelevance. They were always free to protest peacefully.

Thanks, so we agree that peaceful protesters were carted off unceremoniously. 

Were the arrests unnecessary in your opinion? Given your unwillingness to criticise the IDF behaviour, I suspect not but I thought I'd ask. 

hypochondriac

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1 minute ago, egg said:

Thanks, so we agree that peaceful protesters were carted off unceremoniously. 

Were the arrests unnecessary in your opinion? Given your unwillingness to criticise the IDF behaviour, I suspect not but I thought I'd ask. 

I think if an organisation is proscribed and you go out of your way to support that organisation then you know the consequences and can have no complaints. That applies to any organisation of that type. Blame the people who took the actions that got it proscribed. No reason at all that you can't protest without openly supporting a proscribed organisation. 

Sheaf Saint

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7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

The point is no one is getting arrested for peaceful protest or for protesting Israel. Everyone is still free to do so.

They are peacefully protesting against Israel's actions in Gaza AND against the government's absurd decision to proscribe PA as a terrorist organisation. Surely you get that?

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hypochondriac

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3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

They are peacefully protesting against Israel's actions in Gaza AND against the government's absurd decision to proscribe PA as a terrorist organisation. Surely you get that?

Fine. They are free to do one and not the other. If you support a proscribed organisation you know it will likely lead to your arrest. If I go to protests with signs supporting patriotic alternative because I disagree with their designation then I'd expect to be arrested. It doesn't matter how peaceful my protest is.

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3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Fine. They are free to do one and not the other. If you support a proscribed organisation you know it will likely lead to your arrest. If I go to protests with signs supporting patriotic alternative because I disagree with their designation then I'd expect to be arrested. It doesn't matter how peaceful my protest is.

Yes, and I expect many of them did expect to get arrested and in some cases probably even wanted it to happen, to highlight the ridiculous waste of police time and resources. Arresting 900 people for doing nothing but holding up a banner or wearing a T shirt is complete overkill and not sustainable, and this action is intended to force the gov into a rethink of its decision to proscribe PA as terrorists when they are nothing of the sort. It was a knee-jerk response to them embarrassing the MOD. 

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson.

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12 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yes, and I expect many of them did expect to get arrested and in some cases probably even wanted it to happen, to highlight the ridiculous waste of police time and resources. Arresting 900 people for doing nothing but holding up a banner or wearing a T shirt is complete overkill and not sustainable, and this action is intended to force the gov into a rethink of its decision to proscribe PA as terrorists when they are nothing of the sort. It was a knee-jerk response to them embarrassing the MOD. 

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson.

Indeed. For many it was a dual protest. Protesting specifically against the proscription of PA isn't possible. 

hypochondriac

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1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yes, and I expect many of them did expect to get arrested and in some cases probably even wanted it to happen, to highlight the ridiculous waste of police time and resources. Arresting 900 people for doing nothing but holding up a banner or wearing a T shirt is complete overkill and not sustainable, and this action is intended to force the gov into a rethink of its decision to proscribe PA as terrorists when they are nothing of the sort. It was a knee-jerk response to them embarrassing the MOD. 

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson.

It's achieved nothing other than getting a few wallies arrested. They can keep doing it and keep getting arrested and eventually probably end up with a criminal record like the numpties in extinction rebellion.

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12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

It's achieved nothing other than getting a few wallies arrested. They can keep doing it and keep getting arrested and eventually probably end up with a criminal record like the numpties in extinction rebellion.

The fact that we're discussing it suggests that it has done something. 

hypochondriac

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12 minutes ago, egg said:

The fact that we're discussing it suggests that it has done something. 

Well done. It's still proscribed and you're still getting locked up for supporting it and you've achieved a few lines discussing it on a web forum. Well worth getting arrested for. 

Sheaf Saint

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

They might have killed all the leaders in Qatar. Boom! Fuck around and find out losers. Great success.

Or they might not have, while they were debating whether or not to accept the terms of the cease fire agreement. In which case this action has probably all but signed a death warrant for the remaining hostages.

Either way, breaking all international laws and bombing a country they're not at war with to eliminate people meeting to discuss a cease fire is not a great look, wouldn't you agree? 

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