Guilty of 114 charges

[VectisSaint]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

WTF has it got to do with him? Bell end 

Bet they’ve paid him off as well 

He was the Mayor of Manchester, probably had a lot of contact with them and their supposedly massive investments in the City. 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

That fee, even at that time, was very low.

Got to me far more to it than that. No doubt his wages are very 'complicated' also

these are the other big transfers that summer. At the time i think they said it was because his release clause kicked in that season, but it doesnt make sense a apparently the year before they rejected bids of 120m from other clubs

[Osvaldorama]

14 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

He was the Mayor of Manchester, probably had a lot of contact with them and their supposedly massive investments in the City. 

I’m sure. Sportswashing after all.  They’ve left no stone unturned in their corruption. Not just politicians but celebs too:

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

17 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

I’m sure. Sportswashing after all.  They’ve left no stone unturned in their corruption. Not just politicians but celebs too:

 

Best get Farage in power now, or Lowe.

They’re squeaky clean on your book. 🤣

As PM he should’ve not got involved, but given he was mayor of Manchester he probably had a lot of discussions with them previously. Doesn’t mean he knew anything about their (lack of) sporting integrity.

Edited 4 hours ago by Willo of Whiteley

[East Kent Saint]

10 hours ago, Football Special said:

But if it wasn't for FFP and we just went back to how it used to be they'd have just been allowed to spend their own money , still dont know why they couldn't invest millions in Etihad airways and use their marketing budget to sponsor Man City 

The old days relied on wealthy local business men investing heavily in their local club which worked until they ran out of money or died . The rot started when clubs became PLCs and eventually dodgy foreign States thought it would enhance their country's world standing if they got involved in famous sports clubs in the western sphere . They did this by bending all the rules and bare faced lying that they are still doing despite being found out in 113 cases . They couldn’t care less about the clubs they own , not surprised Burnham is panicking the dodgy arabs might cut and run now they have lost any reputation they thought they had . Selling Man City would be excellent , restarting afresh under full scrutiny is the only way to restore the clubs reputation .

[Osvaldorama]

21 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Best get Farage in power now, or Lowe.

They’re squeaky clean on your book. 🤣

As PM he should’ve not got involved, but given he was mayor of Manchester he probably had a lot of discussions with them previously. Doesn’t mean he knew anything about their (lack of) sporting integrity.

Doing a little dance for anyone who invests in his precious hometown is the type of thing you see in corrupt dictatorships.

Im not sure what Farage or Lowe have to do with this, but personally I want to live in a country where integrity matters, and corruption is rooted out, not rewarded. 

How this is handled has bigger implications than just football imo. 

[gio1saints]

10 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Throughout this period, the rules allowed rich owners to invest their money into a club to boost their competitiveness - upto agreed upon limits.

Man city have done that, and then smashed through it with flagrant cheating and a litany of dodgy deals and sham (a legal term) sponsorship contracts - In so doing, they have essentially stolen the money invested in, and the efforts of, all other clubs they have competed against.

Let alone poaching players, staff, and academy products etc.

Leicester were an example of owners investing up to the allowed limits - and actually its evident that Man City directly stole multiple seasons of champions league qualification from them during this period - and now look at the state of Liecester, a club that could very likely cease to exist in the next few years, thanks in part to City's cheating.

It is hard to fathom how anyone can justify the scale of damage that City have done to the football pyramid. Why on earth anyone thinks its remotely reasonable for sovereign wealth funds etc., to be able to use their wealth to utterly out-compete with owners like Gao etc (and just eradicate any merit of sporting or business competence with oil money) i don't know... but how anyone can then go one stage further and excuse cheating those rules (and on this scale) is mind boggling. If that is what you are meaning to say, then honestly, i would say to think about it again and potentially reconsider the impacts this has had on a significant number of clubs within the 92.

I’m not excusing the fraud that took place - sorry that IS taking place everywhere you look in football- starting with on the pitch cheating every single match and moving onto the brown envelops department of sports agents and even to the head - Infantino trying to sell the fucking thing like it was London Bridge! Even down to the turnstile operators letting you in for cash at Wembley. It’s fucked. Everywhere. 

I think those grasping for their pearls about this particular manifestation of corruption in football are about thirty years too late. Arguments about the industrial scale of the cheating and poor hard done by other 91 clubs fans and all the rest don’t impress me much. Man City got caught. Juventus caught caught in Calciopoly. Real Madrid should be non existent but instead have a lovely collection of CL trophies. They are all at it in one way or another. The loudest complainers probably the worst ones not caught yet. Also, fun fact : Watch fir the big clubs who say nought. They are the real big time swindlers! 

Edited 3 hours ago by gio1saints

[benjii]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

these are the other big transfers that summer. At the time i think they said it was because his release clause kicked in that season, but it doesnt make sense a apparently the year before they rejected bids of 120m from other clubs

Antony! 🤣

[aintforever]

3 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Bit of a silly statement, they’ve invested considerable amounts across the city in terms of regeneration.

I’m pretty confident if Markus Liebherr invested hundreds of millions in the city of Southampton no one would complain.

It doesn’t make the cheating ok by any means, but it certainly doesn’t make their efforts elsewhere wasted - they’ve invested in areas other than the football club that have seen upturns in the city.

Exactly, if Leibherr had done similar at Saints we would have lapped it up, and so would the local politicians.

Also, it’s been obvious since day 1 what they were doing. The FA, the Prem and all the other clubs that filled their boots with their transfer cash knew what was happening, they all played along for their own gain.

Edited 2 hours ago by aintforever

[Sarnia Cherie]

Why are Etihad Airways getting involved and threatening to sue the Premier League?  They are not mentioned in any of the charges so what are they going to sue them over? Guilty by association?

If you had irrefutable evidence supporting your case that you had done nothing wrong, as City claim, wouldn't you submit that evidence in the first place and not wait for an appeal? 

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

I’m not excusing the fraud that took place - sorry that IS taking place everywhere you look in football- starting with on the pitch cheating every single match and moving onto the brown envelops department of sports agents and even to the head - Infantino trying to sell the fucking thing like it was London Bridge! Even down to the turnstile operators letting you in for cash at Wembley. It’s fucked. Everywhere. 

I think those grasping for their pearls about this particular manifestation of corruption in football are about thirty years too late. Arguments about the industrial scale of the cheating and poor hard done by other 91 clubs fans and all the rest don’t impress me much. Man City got caught. Juventus caught caught in Calciopoly. Real Madrid should be non existent but instead have a lovely collection of CL trophies. They are all at it in one way or another. The loudest complainers probably the worst ones not caught yet. Also, fun fact : Watch fir the big clubs who say nought. They are the real big time swindlers! 

Like monopoly, but with a "Go To Jail" on every square.

[Saint86]

5 hours ago, sockeye said:

What a clown.

Our PM bought and sold by the UAE's sportswashing

Yeah, this is embarrassingly naked from him - turning a blind eye to grubby money, fraud, and corruption as long as it gets him votes. Standards out the window as long as it keeps his precious dirty millions in Manchester. Really poor from him, and the worst part is he didn't need to get involved. Out with another turd PM and in with a new one - the revolving door continues.

Edited 55 minutes ago by Saint86

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, aintforever said:

Exactly, if Leibherr had done similar at Saints we would have lapped it up, and so would the local politicians.

Also, it’s been obvious since day 1 what they were doing. The FA, the Prem and all the other clubs that filled their boots with their transfer cash knew what was happening, they all played along for their own gain.

Man City raised the cost of competing to the tune of a billion pounds, and the other clubs lapped it up "for their own gain"? Want to run that one past us again? 😅 It wasn't liverpool, man united, arsenal etc. getting the Etihad billions. But it was there player wages, transfer costs, and agents fees that were going up - and they were the ones missing out on key targets to a financially doped man city.

Edited 52 minutes ago by Saint86