miserableoldgit Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 According to todays "Pink". Wotte says that he would only bring someone in if they were better than what we have but he is aware of the financial situation in the club and has "cooled" on the idea. This is even more frustrating when you hear of our relegation rivals strengening their squads (Forest for example now attempting to sign Dexter Blackstock according to todays papers) whilst we obviously have a problem scoring goals. The defence now seems to be doing a reasonably good job but lack of goals will really cost us in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Clinical finishing from midfielders and strikers hasnt really happened all season less upon Saga's return, and CCC teams are now manmarking him. You're essentially correct - an experienced/proven strike force may have arrived too late and with too few players. For me, losing the talisman of Stern John may have been the greatest error. Already a hero for saving us last season we know he can turn it on when he needs to. Rasiak to relegation rivals was simply stupidity. Dyer to Swansea, as a scoring midfielder, suicide. I dont think Lowe has alot of explaining to do, he will never admit his mistakes. But he needs to never be allowed to make a decision at SFC again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 According to todays "Pink". Wotte says that he would only bring someone in if they were better than what we have but he is aware of the financial situation in the club and has "cooled" on the idea. This is even more frustrating when you hear of our relegation rivals strengening their squads (Forest for example now attempting to sign Dexter Blackstock according to todays papers) whilst we obviously have a problem scoring goals. The defence now seems to be doing a reasonably good job but lack of goals will really cost us in the end. Is he currently really better than what we have though ? Certainly he had the potential once,but would he now be an improvement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Could we not play RS further forward and get a LB. I still think RS has a lot more to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Is he currently really better than what we have though ? Certainly he had the potential once,but would he now be an improvement ? Dexter isnt better than we currently have IMHO. But, only if you're comparing him to Euell and Saga. He is probably better than DMG at the moment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Could we not play RS further forward and get a LB. I still think RS has a lot more to offer I wholeheartedly agree with that. Rudi has always been a LM player and scored a shedload of goals for Hearts in that role. He has played LB and so slots in there at a time of need. But you only have to look at his body language to sense he's had enough here. Haven't seen him acknowledge the crowd or interact with us as he did when he arrived. He's been so badly managed this year he's giving about 60% of his true capability... not good when you wear a No. 7 shirt. We cant blame Rudi entirely though, its disgraceful (actually criminally neglegent) how our senior players have been sidelined this season to encourage them to leave - WHILST WE HAVE PAID THEIR WAGES ANYWAY! Too little realisation of the gross errors made too late. That will sum this season up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Clinical finishing from midfielders and strikers hasnt really happened all season less upon Saga's return, and CCC teams are now manmarking him. You're essentially correct - an experienced/proven strike force may have arrived too late and with too few players. For me, losing the talisman of Stern John may have been the greatest error. Already a hero for saving us last season we know he can turn it on when he needs to. Rasiak to relegation rivals was simply stupidity. Dyer to Swansea, as a scoring midfielder, suicide. I dont think Lowe has alot of explaining to do, he will never admit his mistakes. But he needs to never be allowed to make a decision at SFC again. Lets look at their stats for the clubs they are at now. John 13 starts plus 11 as sub 2 goals 2 assists Dyer 9 starts plus 3 as sub 1 goal 2 assists Rasiak 10 starts plus 8 as sub 5 goals 3 assists Hardly setting the world alight. With what they would have cost in wages you have to ask if they could have done any better than those in their positions in Saints present squad. I suggest the answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 22 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Is he currently really better than what we have though ? Certainly he had the potential once,but would he now be an improvement ? I wasn`t necessarily saying that Blackstock is better than anything that we have. I was just pointing out that Forest, for example have already brought in 2 or 3 loans to strengthen their squad and are apparently going to strengthen it further by bringing him in. In fact it is a loan with a view to signing him next season for £2.2M! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Lets look at their stats for the clubs they are at now. John 13 starts plus 11 as sub 2 goals 2 assists Dyer 9 starts plus 3 as sub 1 goal 2 assists Rasiak 10 starts plus 8 as sub 5 goals 3 assists Hardly setting the world alight. With what they would have cost in wages you have to ask if they could have done any better than those in their positions in Saints present squad. I suggest the answer is no. Agreed - but they've been on the bench/injured in Rasiak's case and Bristol and Watford have strikers as well who are better than certainly the man they moved away for - DMG. However, I think we'll disagree that playing for your Club in a relegation battle would not have enthused Stern - the evidence is clear from last year. If you look at their stats for games played/goals scored (and can be bothered to do a comparison ) then I suspect you'll find a higher hit rate than DMG and Euell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 I wasn`t necessarily saying that Blackstock is better than anything that we have. I was just pointing out that Forest, for example have already brought in 2 or 3 loans to strengthen their squad and are apparently going to strengthen it further by bringing him in. In fact it is a loan with a view to signing him next season for £2.2M! Dexter isnt worth £2.2m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Lets look at their stats for the clubs they are at now. John 13 starts plus 11 as sub 2 goals 2 assists Dyer 9 starts plus 3 as sub 1 goal 2 assists Rasiak 10 starts plus 8 as sub 5 goals 3 assists Hardly setting the world alight. With what they would have cost in wages you have to ask if they could have done any better than those in their positions in Saints present squad. I suggest the answer is no. for a team that were a relegation rival. Would rather he had those goals plus assists for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Seen better playing on Sunday mornings.........that's how far I think we have fallen from grace.IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 F**k this "not better than we have" bullshiiit. Has this supposedly experienced manager never heard of INJURIES ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Clinical finishing from midfielders and strikers hasnt really happened all season less upon Saga's return, and CCC teams are now manmarking him. You're essentially correct - an experienced/proven strike force may have arrived too late and with too few players. For me, losing the talisman of Stern John may have been the greatest error. Already a hero for saving us last season we know he can turn it on when he needs to. Rasiak to relegation rivals was simply stupidity. Dyer to Swansea, as a scoring midfielder, suicide. I dont think Lowe has alot of explaining to do, he will never admit his mistakes. But he needs to never be allowed to make a decision at SFC again. Were Watford relegation rivals when Raisal went there? Even if so, if he hadn't have gone somewhere quickly we could have faced administration earlier and lost 10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Maybe SOG, maybe. Changing tack slightly - back onto the fred... Did we lose our loan signing due to finance, not being able to attract anyone better than we have or the fact that no-one better than we currently have would want to come to the club, given the gross mismanagement of players partly illustrated by the quitting of the one quality loanee we did have to relegation rivals Watford? Cant attract better players than we have due to poor management perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Lowe's catalogue of errors this season will relegate us. Will be nice for him in his later years to sit by the fire with his slippers on, down in history as the man who orchestrated the two most devastating relegations in the history of SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 According to todays "Pink". Wotte says that he would only bring someone in if they were better than what we have but he is aware of the financial situation in the club and has "cooled" on the idea. This is even more frustrating when you hear of our relegation rivals strengening their squads (Forest for example now attempting to sign Dexter Blackstock according to todays papers) whilst we obviously have a problem scoring goals. The defence now seems to be doing a reasonably good job but lack of goals will really cost us in the end. Great! So we could yet sign Mr Blobby or Vanessa Feltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 Lowe's catalogue of errors this season will relegate us. Will be nice for him in his later years to sit by the fire with his slippers on, down in history as the man who orchestrated the two most devastating relegations in the history of SFC. In history English football perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredKo Posted 22 March, 2009 Share Posted 22 March, 2009 I wholeheartedly agree with that. Rudi has always been a LM player and scored a shedload of goals for Hearts in that role. He has played LB and so slots in there at a time of need. But you only have to look at his body language to sense he's had enough here. Haven't seen him acknowledge the crowd or interact with us as he did when he arrived. He's been so badly managed this year he's giving about 60% of his true capability... not good when you wear a No. 7 shirt. We cant blame Rudi entirely though, its disgraceful (actually criminally neglegent) how our senior players have been sidelined this season to encourage them to leave - WHILST WE HAVE PAID THEIR WAGES ANYWAY! Too little realisation of the gross errors made too late. That will sum this season up. Fully agree. In my opinion the most likely thing is we should loan Swedish international left back Erik Edman from Wigan. He is fit but never get a game in Wigan this season. If he is not getting a game in Wigan, he should come to join us like Richard Wright last season. That means we can push Skacel further forward and I am sure Erik Edman is better than all of the left backs in this division which could help Saejs, Perry and L James a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 March, 2009 Share Posted 23 March, 2009 Lets look at their stats for the clubs they are at now. John 13 starts plus 11 as sub 2 goals 2 assists Dyer 9 starts plus 3 as sub 1 goal 2 assists Rasiak 10 starts plus 8 as sub 5 goals 3 assists Hardly setting the world alight. With what they would have cost in wages you have to ask if they could have done any better than those in their positions in Saints present squad. I suggest the answer is no. AND ....the much-criticised David McGoldrick has done better ..........than all of them put together ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 March, 2009 Share Posted 23 March, 2009 Fully agree. In my opinion the most likely thing is we should loan Swedish international left back Erik Edman from Wigan. He is fit but never get a game in Wigan this season. If he is not getting a game in Wigan, he should come to join us like Richard Wright last season. That means we can push Skacel further forward and I am sure Erik Edman is better than all of the left backs in this division which could help Saejs, Perry and L James a lot. I don't doubt Edman's talent, (and he's had a lot of coverage in Sweden in the past,) but it's surely a matter of money and he's probably getting more than the rest of our team put together. Think he was previously at Spurs (?) and was on a good salary there I'll bet, and most likely didn't take a salary drop when he moved to Wigan, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 March, 2009 Share Posted 23 March, 2009 Clinical finishing from midfielders and strikers hasnt really happened all season less upon Saga's return, and CCC teams are now manmarking him. You're essentially correct - an experienced/proven strike force may have arrived too late and with too few players. For me, losing the talisman of Stern John may have been the greatest error. Already a hero for saving us last season we know he can turn it on when he needs to. Rasiak to relegation rivals was simply stupidity. Dyer to Swansea, as a scoring midfielder, suicide. I dont think Lowe has alot of explaining to do, he will never admit his mistakes. But he needs to never be allowed to make a decision at SFC again. i never had watford as a relegation rival when raz went there and the term scoring midfielder and dyer in the same sentance makes the rest of your post a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 23 March, 2009 Share Posted 23 March, 2009 According to todays "Pink". Wotte says that he would only bring someone in if they were better than what we have but he is aware of the financial situation in the club and has "cooled" on the idea. This is even more frustrating when you hear of our relegation rivals strengening their squads (Forest for example now attempting to sign Dexter Blackstock according to todays papers) whilst we obviously have a problem scoring goals. The defence now seems to be doing a reasonably good job but lack of goals will really cost us in the end. There are thousands of players better than Wotton and Smith. If the people in charge this club can't find them or don't want to then they should go. Crouch paid for Wright on loan last season which saved us from relegation. Every other relegation rival is strengthening their squads/teams to try and escape relegation despite financial problems apart from Saints? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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