Viking Warrior Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Given that the really anti lowe brigade have got their wish now lowe is out the door. do you turn your attention to getting rid of wotte. or do you hope crouch comes back into the fold and does that for you? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I would imagine yet another managerial change is the very last thing the team needs now, at least until our fate is sealed one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I think you will find it's Barclays who have got their wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Getting rid of Wotte now would be ridiculous. He has the best chance of keeping us up, rather than bringing in another manager who doesn't know the squad and who the squad will have to adapt to.... However... if Wotte does keep us up it will be as much a disgrace to replace him as it was to replace Pearson last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Given that the really anti lowe brigade have got their wish now lowe is out the door. do you turn your attention to getting rid of wotte. or do you hope crouch comes back into the fold and does that for you? Just curious Let him try and save us. THEN ... sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Clean sweep please - get rid of all the $h!t. Lowe is the first to go please, Wotte is on the li$t. The rebirth of SFC is going to happen, and that means all the old cR@p has top ga. As soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Given that the really anti lowe brigade have got their wish now lowe is out the door. do you turn your attention to getting rid of wotte. or do you hope crouch comes back into the fold and does that for you? Just curious I think your curious post to be crass in the extreme and insulting to Saints fans - you are insinuating that it is only politics that drives supporters of the club. Whilst the majority presumably see the removal of Lowe as a good thing I don't think the real fan is rejoicing tonight. It is a dark day and yet you seem determined to wring further political mileage by re-igniting a debate that has been done to death, just to get your name in lights. I don't like Lowe but I have no pleasure dancing on his grave and threads like this are just tasteless. If he goes tomorrow it will be good but let's not use his departure to open wounds that do not need reopening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I actually think Wotte has the makings of a decent manager. He seems to understand English football in a way that JP didn't. He also seems strict which is a good thing, and fairly adaptable in terms of tactics. That we have oly lost something like 3 in 11 says much about the impact of MW. I think we should support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Well of course, it all depends on who eventually picks up the pieces If as some suggest Leon is dancing around his office waiting to pick us up for 50p and put his 2mil into the club then the odds on him doing a rupe's on poor old Wotte after he keeps us up on the last day would have to be pretty high. (Will keep us busy for another season doing comparisons if nothing else) He'll find another inexperienced manager somewhere Like Shearer who's only got the job until Kinnear comes back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 To be fair i don't really think you can say the anti Lowe group got their wish. My wish was for Lowe to not return to the club in the 1st place. To me it seems a damn shame that the only way he would leave would be for the club to get to the level it is at now. We all lose because of it. That does not make me happy one bit. It makes me angry that things have got this far. I don't think any Saints fan "wished for this". In regards to Wotte i think he has to stay. Things must try and stay as normal as possible and right now he is the coach. He knows the players and he is doing okay thus far. Staying up now is the only thing that should matter to us fans. As hard as it will be we need to leave the politics until after we are either safe or we are down. Until then everyone including the idiots who come on this website just to cause trouble must get behind the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 I agree and it is a pity that the only way we can be rid of them is by reaching nearly rock bottom (liquidation being rock bottom) The position now or at least it will be at 1000 today is that we must move forward even if we are relegated. It is no point debating whether Mark Wotte is good enough - we have no-one else and too few games left but to continue with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 I think your curious post to be crass in the extreme and insulting to Saints fans - you are insinuating that it is only politics that drives supporters of the club. Whilst the majority presumably see the removal of Lowe as a good thing I don't think the real fan is rejoicing tonight. It is a dark day and yet you seem determined to wring further political mileage by re-igniting a debate that has been done to death, just to get your name in lights. I don't like Lowe but I have no pleasure dancing on his grave and threads like this are just tasteless. If he goes tomorrow it will be good but let's not use his departure to open wounds that do not need reopening. Good response. Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Given that the really anti lowe brigade have got their wish now lowe is out the door. do you turn your attention to getting rid of wotte. or do you hope crouch comes back into the fold and does that for you? Just curious What a thick t w a t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 I would have thought whatever happens in the next few weeks Wotte will remain in charge for the remainder of this season at least . Any new owners will have their own ideas regarding the managerial position but that's a question for another day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Given that the really anti lowe brigade have got their wish Give it a rest you fool. If you think any Saints fan (apart from the odd nutter) are really taking any pleasure from the state we find ourselves in, then I can only conclude that you are really out of touch with how the majority are feeling. Any sense of relief that Lowe may finally have gone is far, far outweighed by the worries and concerns regarding the perilous state he has left us in. You sound like a spoilt brat ging off in a tantrum. The mods would do well locking this pathetic thread and asking some to reopen it again with a normal post regarding Wotte's position (as whilst it is a relevant subject, it could do without the pathetic opening gambit from the OP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Regardless of what happends in boardroom, we still have a very live fear of getting relegated anyway!!!! For the first time in ages, we need CONTINUITY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 have to keep wotte etc. Continuity is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumush Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 have to keep wotte etc. Continuity is a must. I'm amazed anyone has dignified this thread by responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 To be fair i don't really think you can say the anti Lowe group got their wish. My wish was for Lowe to not return to the club in the 1st place. To me it seems a damn shame that the only way he would leave would be for the club to get to the level it is at now. We all lose because of it. That does not make me happy one bit. It makes me angry that things have got this far. I don't think any Saints fan "wished for this". In regards to Wotte i think he has to stay. Things must try and stay as normal as possible and right now he is the coach. He knows the players and he is doing okay thus far. Staying up now is the only thing that should matter to us fans. As hard as it will be we need to leave the politics until after we are either safe or we are down. Until then everyone including the idiots who come on this website just to cause trouble must get behind the team. Well worded post and it sums it up nicely for me. I'm sure the administrators will try to cause as little disruption to the current season as possible and will be working behind the scenes to stabalise the club and sell it as a going concern. It is going to be interesting to see if there are any genuine investors to step in to save the club or whether the likes of the Fulthorpe consortium/ Paul Allen etc were just a bunch of tyre-kickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Wotte has been one of the very, very few shining lights this season. If he saves us from relegation it will be a minor miracle as sadly I think he came to the post too late ! He must stay ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 We need him right now. He's shown himself to be more than capable and he's our best chance of survival. If we stay up, IMO, I'd love him to stay. Just hope people can separate him and Lowe in their minds. He has to stay til the end of the season obviously. Then in the summer is the time to find out how much influence he had with Jan during the rest of the season. They were brought in as a TEAM and if they were working together as a TEAM then he should be sacked as well for that team's failures. It may turn out he let Jan deal with the first team whilst he dealt witht the reserves, in which case it would be a very different scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 I think it is fair to say after the anti Lowes early attacks on Wotte are now prepared to give him a chance. He is not Lowe /Wilde/Askham/Corbett/the tyre kickers or any of the others who have failed us and the majority are giving him some slack. Duncan and Um rightly say that the club is more important at this time.A change of manager would be madness and i am very confident that LC would not get rid of him just because Lowe appointed him. i want no divisions i just want the club to survive, we just have different voiews how that can be achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 He has to stay til the end of the season obviously. Then in the summer is the time to find out how much influence he had with Jan during the rest of the season. They were brought in as a TEAM and if they were working together as a TEAM then he should be sacked as well for that team's failures. It may turn out he let Jan deal with the first team whilst he dealt witht the reserves, in which case it would be a very different scenarioVK I agree if he keeps us up he will deserve to keep his job.What he will be left to work with??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 VK I agree if he keeps us up he will deserve to keep his job. That isn't what i said. A thorough review of what the hell was going on at management level for the majority of the season needs to be done and then decisions can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 That isn't what i said. A thorough review of what the hell was going on at management level for the majority of the season needs to be done and then decisions can be made.Surely you dont think if we stay up after all that has happened you would want him gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Surely you dont think if we stay up after all that has happened you would want him gone? Like i said, i'd want to know how much he has contributed to "all that has happened" this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Like i said, i'd want to know how much he has contributed to "all that has happened" this season. I dont know how we will ever know that.I have been told that he took a back seat and let Jan get on with it with his number 2.i dont think it helped how they were put up as a duo when patently jan was calling the shots in training and on matchdays regarding tactics substitutions etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 I dont know how we will ever know that.I have been told that he took a back seat and let Jan get on with it with his number 2.i dont think it helped how they were put up as a duo when patently jan was calling the shots in training and on matchdays regarding tactics substitutions etc. Which is why i think a thorough review is needed to find out whether they were a duo or if there was a definite number 1 and number 2. The way they were unveiled suggested they were a duo. Maybe Wotte was sat up in the stands watching and giving tactical input? I don't know and i think questions need to be answered at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Which is why i think a thorough review is needed to find out whether they were a duo or if there was a definite number 1 and number 2. The way they were unveiled suggested they were a duo. Maybe Wotte was sat up in the stands watching and giving tactical input? I don't know and i think questions need to be answered at the end of the season. I know that the info given to me is correct.He was in the background and left jan to do his thing. In all things people will believe what they want to and so if some want to tag them together (Ican understand why as the way they were publicised)then they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 Given that the really anti lowe brigade have got their wish now lowe is out the door. do you turn your attention to getting rid of wotte. or do you hope crouch comes back into the fold and does that for you? Just curious are you a total ****ing idiot, or just one when it comes to saints matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 April, 2009 No I anit a ****ing idiot far from it. but your all entitled to your opinion> iwas just posing the question. I am totally behind Wotte and want him to stay at least till the end of the season. And no I was not trying to make political mileage etc out of my post. Im as concerned as much as the next fan re the state of the club but given the hostility towards wotte in recent weeks I was just trying to gauge whether everybody would now get behind the team. With Hindsight I could have posed the question better. So apologies for upsetting some of my fellow fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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