suewhistle Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 I know we've had some pretty depressing crowd figures this season, but does anybody think that we'd have had less than 20k like Reading tonight if we had been in the play-off semis? I hope bidders are aware of our potential with even a little bit of success... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Good point. The support is there ready to fill SMS.All we need now is the right backing and a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 I know we've had some pretty depressing crowd figures this season, but does anybody think that we'd have had less than 20k like Reading tonight if we had been in the play-off semis? I hope bidders are aware of our potential with even a little bit of success... I saw that, pathetic gate from Reading although didn't Burnley take their goals well? Owen Coyle has done an amazing job there and they have a great chance of beating Sheff Utd with the likes of Paterson - who I think is a Sheff Utd youth product originally! I really believe that if we could overcome the -10 penalty and push into the playoffs in the later part of next season that we could get in excess of 25k and pushing 30k for Leeds if they don't beat Millwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Win four or five on the trot and people will come back, not in droves but they'll come back. Have the usual Saints start with a load of rejects from The Muppet Show and Fred Karno's Army and then I'm afraid they'll dwindle. That is a fact of football life, nothing to do with Saints having bad supporters as some posters would have or even with them having great supporters. Unsuccessful teams tend to have lower gates. Who'd have thunk it eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 If you consider how many homes games we won, how generally **** we were, and how much people hated Lowe etc, and how much we had to pay for a ticket compared to others (NCFC £13 adult) ; our attendances this season were bloody amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Reading always have been a noddy club. Forget the stadium, they are historically on a par with Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Once again gives a lie to the myth peddled by some of the more demented on here that our fans are in any way to blame whatsoever for any of the ills that have befallen the club. We have good support and anyone who knows anything about football is aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Take London out of the equation and Saints are the biggest club south of Birmingham. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 To be honest I think we will average around 18,000 next season if we are doing any better than 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Win four or five on the trot and people will come back, not in droves but they'll come back. Have the usual Saints start with a load of rejects from The Muppet Show and Fred Karno's Army and then I'm afraid they'll dwindle. That is a fact of football life, nothing to do with Saints having bad supporters as some posters would have or even with them having great supporters. Unsuccessful teams tend to have lower gates. Who'd have thunk it eh? Unfortunately Master Bates has a season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 Win four or five on the trot and people will come back, not in droves but they'll come back. Have the usual Saints start with a load of rejects from The Muppet Show and Fred Karno's Army and then I'm afraid they'll dwindle. That is a fact of football life, nothing to do with Saints having bad supporters as some posters would have or even with them having great supporters. Unsuccessful teams tend to have lower gates. Who'd have thunk it eh? Showing your age using that phrase. Agree with you though,that a couple of wins and some sign of promise on the field with a respected board and our gates will jump to levels higher than most CCC clubs next season despite being in L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 (edited) Once again gives a lie to the myth peddled by some of the more demented on here that our fans are in any way to blame whatsoever for any of the ills that have befallen the club. We have good support and anyone who knows anything about football is aware of this. Not sure that is correct - surely a 'lie to the myth' makes it a truth.... Fans are part of the problem in my opinion. For three reasons: - If we'd had 32K every week we wouldn't be in admin. That's unsurprising though, the division's lower, the economy is a bit pants and the quality has been lacking. - Sections of fans (on both sides) have stoked the fires of division (with best intentions maybe, but at times it felt we'd forgotten it was a football club first, political hot potato second) - The fan uprising over Hoddle helped bring about the management merrygoround that lead to our relegation. It didn't make Lowe make stupid decisions, but it did force his hand on what turned out to be key one. Blame is a stong word. We need to take collective (some more than others i.e Lowe/Wilde/Crouch) responsibility. I don't think anyone has covered themselves in glory though. Edited 12 May, 2009 by Alain Perrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 12 May, 2009 Share Posted 12 May, 2009 I'm pretty sure if we win most matches next year and get in a position to get automatic promotion(highly unlikely I know) or playoffs we would sell out by the last few games of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 13,500 average up to November. 15,222 average Nov to Jan...23,000 Jan to March and March to final game of season 30,102 average. Saints promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Reading's support always has been pathetic, 19k for a play off semi final!! As for us next season, all depends on how we start, who we've signed in the summer & if we're winning games. Whatever division we are in people want to see a winning team, if we manage to overturn the -10 points within the first 4 games then we'll be looking at between 15k & 18k. I don't think we'll ever go much lower than 13-15k as this is the hard core of support that will keep going whatever. Also i don't think we'll actually lose that many ST holders & it will remain around the 9k mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 13,500 average up to November. 15,222 average Nov to Jan...23,000 Jan to March and March to final game of season 30,102 average. Saints promoted. sounds about right except to get promoted we will need a good start so your average up to November will be at least 16k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Even in the Premiership, Saints were in the top 10 or 11 for attendances with an average of approx. 32,000. The scale of our subsequent mismanagement is staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Reading's support always has been pathetic, 19k for a play off semi final!! As for us next season, all depends on how we start, who we've signed in the summer & if we're winning games. Whatever division we are in people want to see a winning team, if we manage to overturn the -10 points within the first 4 games then we'll be looking at between 15k & 18k. I don't think we'll ever go much lower than 13-15k as this is the hard core of support that will keep going whatever. Also i don't think we'll actually lose that many ST holders & it will remain around the 9k mark. I think that you are about right but it's quite poor considering that I just read that Norwich have already sold 18k ! I reckon that the number of ST's could improve dramatically if a) the new owners look potentially exciting, b) they price the tickets at a bargain level (average under £300) ?? Would be nice to get a bit of atmosphere cos the place can be a morgue when half full ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I can see us starting the season with crowds of 18-19k, falling away to 13-14k if the first few games don't yield wins. Pretty much like last season, we're a fickle lot and the 'Lowe is gone' effect will be more than countered by the 'the football in League One is ****' effect. Unless we start winning every game (in which case I reckon 21k would be realistic). I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 Didn't realise dracula was a Burnley fan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 Once again gives a lie to the myth peddled by some of the more demented on here that our fans are in any way to blame whatsoever for any of the ills that have befallen the club. We have good support and anyone who knows anything about football is aware of this. You've missed the point I think. The fans aren't 'to blame' for the problems, but a lack of, or rather a huge reduction in support is one of the reasons we are in a mess. Obviously it would never have happened and I wouldn't expect it to, but just suppose we'd been getting gates of 30,000 all season regardless of perormances and results, I don't think we'd be in administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 Didn't realise dracula was a Burnley fan: Burnley small crowds but a classic example of get it right on the field with a small first team squad of good solid players , not a huge squad of average players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'00' Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 And Wigan couldnt fill their ground for the European champions..pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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