Fabrice29

We literally got better after he left and I don’t believe he ever worked in football again. You keep believing it’s all rumours though 👍

Yeah other teams in this league have better attacks than us. Yep, West Ham were a mess.

30 v 8 shots is pretty shit to be fair.

They aren't that reluctant seeing as the PL release the audio of various incidents each month. They also make all VAR audio available to commentators live, to clubs after each game and to some journalists.

Boycott games because we’ve put in a couple of ‘reasonable performances’. Perfectly normal way to end an odd day in this thread.

The club were clearing expecting KWP to leave in the summer and were making provisions for that. Suspect that comes to reality in January tbh but as it didn’t happen we had one more than we expected. Not that it has much to do with Meghoma who I suspect had indicated he wanted to leave quite a bit earlier hence why he wasn’t involved in pre season. Like I said, I’ve been critical of the club in this area in the past so don’t really blame him, but I don’t think it’s on Martin when Meghoma has just turned 18 and is yet to play a minute in the PL for Brentford so clearly isn’t seen as ready not just by Martin. I’m sure he goes on to have a cracking career and one we’ve messed up on a bit but the idea that he should be getting regular minutes in the Championship or PL just doesn’t stand up. These kids, Meghoma/Doyle and even JJM (none of which have proven they should be playing in the PL/Championship yet) were really let down by the year we got relegated more than anything. It meant that everything last season had to be focused on the short term. The best environment for these kids is on a settled PL club where they can be allowed to make mistakes when given chances(hence moves to Brentford and Brighton). Fighting relegation, then aiming to be promoted then having to stay up isn’t really that environment unless you’re exceptional and have a manager willing to trust you which many wouldn’t (hence why I praised Martin for doing so with Dibling).

Btw, just on this he played 2 minutes in the Championship and made 3 FA cup appearances in January so he must have made a hell of an impression on you in the August EFL cup game against League 2's Gillingham.

Meghoma turned 18 this summer and has yet to make an appearance for Brentford in the PL. I’ve been critical of the club and it’s opportunities to young players in recent years but this idea that Meghoma or even Dibling have been held back by Martin despite being ready just isn’t true. Him, SAA and Dibling all had minutes last season at perfectly normal times for kids their age and the context the club found itself in.

Man asked about structure of a football club gives answer about structure of a club and the answer is quoted as being about the teams performance. Cool.

What’s the evidence for this? 😂

As I said…unpopular 😂 I’m not sure a tight promotion end to the season would have been a particularly nice environment to bring in a 17 year old when quality players like Brooks were available. Diblings performances this season don’t immediately translate into last seasons games so it’s not as simple as saying ‘he’s good now so should have been playing last year’. I also don’t think many managers would be trusting an 18 year old and a young kid in Fernandes in their first season in the prem when their job is slipping away. Especially more so I don’t think many would set the team up for them to be central to it. Dibling has played more minutes than any other 18 year old in the league this year. He’s obviously very good and one of our better players but I don’t see many other managers trusting their talented kids like Martin is and I think the way we play allows them both to play their natural games rather than something against their nature like a Sean Dyche (just an example) team would. Anyway, it’s unpopular and unprovable so I’ll just let it get shouted down and stop there and I’ll bring it back up when the manager does change and we’ll see how any new way of playing suits them.

You’re right I didn’t read them but there’s a difference between that plan and this which I did spot from Farmer which seems a perfectly valid business plan. ‘But where the strategy seems to be that we covered our bases financially to mean relegation doesn't matter, I guess we'll just have to suffer longer.’

I find it bizarre anyone would think this is the plan and the same goes for anyone who suggests "get someone in now so we can prepare for next season". Completely forgetting the last time we were in this position we sacked 2 managers by the end of the season in an attempt to stay up and then sacked the 3rd because he too had lost a lot of games. I don't think the owners would be afraid to make that call if they felt it was right, for whatever reason they obviously don't think it is right at this stage (presumably because unlike those 3 managers, this manager is still clearly getting good buy in from the players).

The reason being the manager he signed under was sacked pretty quickly after he joined, the new manager wasn't very good and nor was PO and then last summer he wanted to leave to go on loan and then this summer back to the club he was on loan at. It's not some massive in justice just because he did a couple of nice turns on Sunday.

This will be unpopular but I'm not convinced either would be playing so regularly under another regime.

When people say this what do they actually mean out of interest? Cant be arsed to get into a debate about the team btw, just what's the math behind this?

He didn't say that, so thats the plus side.

Fair enough, my bad.

There is very few of our squad that have played PL football and not been relegated by the way.

Yes, they are both solely responsible for the points they have gained in the PL and there are simply no other factors to be considered for either of them. It's a perfectly valid comparison and well done you for spotting it.

If you actually read/watch the long form answer on this in the press conference he explains that he tells his players to play quickly and needs to do better explaining when to do that because that obviously isn't the right time to do it. But again, as Lighthouse explained on here, why anyone needs that explaining let alone an experienced keeper like McCarthy is baffling and I suspect he'll be dropped again the moment Ramsdale is fit because Martin will think it's insane too. But if you want to live in a world where every mistake McCarthy now makes is purely Martin based then good for you my friend.

Hi. Are you able to make sense of what he's saying? A player demanding to leave after he played a part in our relegation is less damaging than the manager who helped get us promoted the year after?

Hello, happy to put forward any defence you like if it settles your nerves. Have until the end of MNF so put in your requests. Headline news will be we played well yesterday, I still believe not everything is one mans fault and removing him wont make much of a difference. Any other of my greatest hits you want me to play?

Eh?

Sorry, did you not watch the game yesterday ffs? I can understand the frustration most of the weeks but you won't find many teams being 2-1 up against top of the table after an hour this season.