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We would be joint 17th with our goal difference of -1.

Legod - staring at 4th division football.... Sotonist, yes one of those photos etched into every urinal and toilet would be a better reminder. So that he never comes anywhere near our city for fear of being recognised and laughed at for the rest of his life. Not that I am bitter. Revenge is the dish that people with taste p on warmly....

I think that we do need a reminder of Rupert Lowe at SMS. How about every urinal and toilet has his name painted in the bowl? :-)

If it is so good why do they have the fewest number of home grown players in their team?

Just how much worse could he be compared to 2 relegations and administration? You are in denial about how bad Lowe was. How about Lowe was worse than 90% of other Chairman in the Football League and Prem? A view backed up by the statistics.

JP is a very naive business manager. He trusted Lowe. He agreed to a job without the contract details being sorted out. Above all else he thought he was a better coach than he really is.

Maybe make Kelvin the Club Captain for status and make Hammond the Team Captain?

Dubai phil, what alternative wisdom is there?

Davis has failed to captain his defence. Why are they such a shambles at set pieces?

and not in Goal. So will Pardew make it Hammond? He seems the best bet. Wotton has blown his chance.

Unfortunately the mess we are in makes another relegation more likely. That is why I agree that the facts about the "state we are in" needs to be communicated by the Club. Lowe cost us the 10 point deduction this season and his "play cheap youth" policy brought about relegation. Pinnacle then wasted valuable time that should have been spent by the new regime preparing for this season. We therefore have a squad demoralised and short of suitable players. Just staying up in League 1 is the best we can hope for this season. Let us get realistic. Long term our prospects are very good.

Pinnacle seem to have wasted a month that leaves us 1 month further behind in our preparation. The difference between promotion and mid table or mid table and a relegation fight. Pinnacle clearly mislead (duped?) Crouch. Crouch should be given freedom of the city for keeping the club alive and avoiding a bigger points deduction.

Why did Wotte think he deserved the job?

I agree with Legod. Wotte actively participated in Lowe's final last experiment and then was one of the least successful Saints managers ever. It all resulted in administration and relegation. Short of going out of business there was not much worse that could have happened. And he walks away with another year of pay!

In his previous time here there was at least one major marketing mistake by Oldknow that made me doubt his understanding of his profession. That said we have to hope that our new owner employs his shrewd business skills in the operation of the Club.

Well since he lives at home he can afford one.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=353596&postcount=3577 dubai_phil also asks why Fry structured the selling of the bits in this manner.

CB Fry I never said the Trust + Council was the "dream ticket". You wrote "there were better deals to be done out there, and I think there still is. " After 3 months where are they?

Lowe brought us into administration. Anymore of him would finish us off.

CB Fry, there is no consortium that can fund it all after 3 months at the price Fry etc are asking. By now even The Trust for example might have managed to put together a bid for £2m to buy the Club if that had been an opportunity 3 months ago. As to last resorts, we may even have run out of time to do that if the Club is impaired with 30 point deductions....

"We are taking the Club to the next level" Lowe. Omitted to say that was 2 or 3 levels lower....

In response to CB Fry if the Council owned SMS then the Club would rent it back from them for a set fee per match etc. Thus attendance money would still go to the Club. Not all prospective buyers would want SMS. It will make up most of the value and it is therefore easier to put up £2m to £4m for the club than £12m to £14m for the Club and SMS.

I think they could complete it relatively quickly IF the price was reasonable. £10m is something the Council could relatively easily borrow ahead of the sale of paintings etc. Royston the Deputy Leader was clearly interested in SMS but Fry has p****d him off by keeping the Council out of the loop. Fry seems to have done this becauase he was trying to sell it all as a package.... to those who were only interested in the package. Politically the purchase of SMS would be seen to "save Saints". Labour and the LDs would not attack the Council over making that move. And if the financial side showed a win for tax payers it would attract widespread support from tax payers.

Steve yes it has taken the decision in principle to look into it. What better use to turn £10m of unseen paintings into a local asset that 1) helps Saints and 2) generates a better return than if the money was in the bank?

Why do you say that? I explained above how £10m could easily generate £1m to £1.5m pa in rent.