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Whether they do or not isn't really relevant to the point SW5 was making, which was a very good one.

Someone here is being naive, that's for sure.

Dont disagree, we'd still be in the mid twenties though, would we? I always worry about players on the way down. Far more likely we'll sign someone I've never heard of (not difficult) for £10m. If there is a Southampton Way, that might be it.

Toby didn't want to sign for us. You seem to be confusing football transfers with eighteenth century slave trade.

It can be done, like it has been done by, like, us. We've been buying loads of players in the £8- £12m bracket and hardly bought any duds at all. Apart from the now historic disasters of Osvaldo and Ramirez, our record is excellent from Victor and Mane to Lovren and Long and Virgil and Bertrand and Tadic and Pelle and Forster. Clasie clearly getting better and better too. Plus cheaper signings like Austin and Romeu, Cedric who will also prove their worth, and decent loans like Toby and Stek. We won't be buying big club cast offs like Bony and Benteke any time soon and neither should we. I'm sure there were plenty grumbling about Villa signing Sinclair and Lescott last summer. We've established a nice niche in the type of players we've signed and we will carry on in that vein. Weird we're already getting "sort that black box out" type comments when our transfer record is absolutely superb on any measure you like.

Er, League. Obviously. They'll finish top four.

Because Leicester didn't "aim to win the league". Or, if they did, (which they didn't) then we can interpret aiming to win the league as signing free transfer full-backs, Stoke City third choice centre backs and not spending any more than £8m on anyone. Or, to put it another way, Saints have "aimed to win the league" every season since we got promoted.

They'll still win.

Except we don't always lose to them. Have a Minstrel or forty and calm down.

Of course it's me. The government are still paying me to discredit Pap, but the funding does come through an EU grant program, which explains why I am so passionate about the Remain camp. It's my little holiday fund. Those people clubbing together. Just wonderful. I bet SOG lobbed a tenner in.

After the clip finishes that odd bloke appears talking about the leftist bias of the "British Brainwashing Corporation", seemingly unaware of the source of the clip. Great stuff. Of course, Andrew Neil seems to get 20 tweets a day about how right wing and Tory the BBC is and how the bloke that runs BBC Politics was Osborne's best man or something. But all by the by. That woman came across okay anyway.

I think you know your way round our splinter forum, GB. I think it's a point of principle to not actually link to it here. Anyway, if you're struggling the thread is named after Goncalo Amaral, the Portuguese copper in the case.

Confirmed he says. CONFIRMED. You people.

Heartily recommend the McCann thread over on Bletchweb which I did have a peruse over yesterday. There seems to be a new kid in town, a proto-Pap. A Pap mini-me. A Pup if you will. It's weapons-grade stuff. He's demonstrating all the familiar hallmarks including deliciously referring to all the "research" what he done. And the most critical hallmark of the lot, which is (of course) spouting a load of old pony. He's a special little guy, that's for sure. Anyway, if you like a chuckle at jolly insightful loons "challenging official narratives" then it's an absolute pearl of a thread.

Palace to win the cup with Pardew taking over from Roy after the Euros. The Mike Bassett-isation of the England team will be complete.

Top quality analysis. Yesterday we also learned that if Shane Long scored 20 goals a season he'd be a 20 goals a season striker.

No one seems to have told her that there is a highly convenient way to carry breast milk around.

It was offside.

Here's the original post. He's spot on. You got dug out by about five posters for your Vardy comment in seconds and now have got nowhere to go except retreat. We all make mistakes. Give your fingers a rest.

Ian McKellen tonight on BBC 2 was simply brilliant with this speech. I've long thought St George's day was a load of old small-minded pony and the same day would be infinitely better served as Shakespeare Day, and this piece which I wasn't aware of previously, seals it for me. Apposite on this thread. William's take on Thomas More's speech to the mob protesting against migrants in 1517: Grant them removed, and grant that this your noise Hath chid down all the majesty of England; Imagine that you see the wretched strangers, Their babies at their backs and their poor luggage, Plodding to the ports and coasts for transportation, And that you sit as kings in your desires, Authority quite silent by your brawl, And you in ruff of your opinions clothed; What had you got? I’ll tell you: you had taught How insolence and strong hand should prevail, How order should be quelled; and by this pattern Not one of you should live an aged man, For other ruffians, as their fancies wrought, With self same hand, self reasons, and self right, Would shark on you, and men like ravenous fishes Would feed on one another…. Say now the king Should so much come too short of your great trespass As but to banish you, whether would you go? What country, by the nature of your error, Should give you harbour? go you to France or Flanders, To any German province, to Spain or Portugal, Nay, any where that not adheres to England, Why, you must needs be strangers: would you be pleased To find a nation of such barbarous temper, That, breaking out in hideous violence, Would not afford you an abode on earth, Whet their detested knives against your throats, Spurn you like dogs, and like as if that God Owed not nor made not you, nor that the claimants Were not all appropriate to your comforts, But chartered unto them, what would you think To be thus used? this is the strangers case; And this your mountainish inhumanity. I'm not putting any more Shakespeare on this forum tonight, two threads is quite enough but from a billion eons away he sees the truth in us all. I'd recommend watching McKellen if you can. Imagine it will be on YouTube within hours. Brilliant.

This royal throne of kings, This sceptred isle, This earth of majesty, This seat of Mars, This other Eden, Demi-paradise, This fortress built by Nature for herself Against infection and the hand of war, This happy breed of men, This little world, This precious stone set in the silver sea, Which serves it in the office of a wall Or as a moat defensive to a house, Against the envy of less happier lands, This blessed plot, This earth, This realm, This England. Vote in, vote in, vote in Don't be miserable as sin, Vote in.

I think we are stuck competing with our natural rivals West Brom and Bournemouth while those three build on their foundations and leave us behind.

You seem to be confusing a "20 goal a season striker" with "a striker that scores 20 goals in a season". Those two things are not the same. It's a simple point. I hope you can understand it now without resorting to your usual drivel.

Long, Mane, Pelle, Austin, Jay Rod. Waaah waah waah why can't we be Leicester.

So what you seem to be saying is if Shane Long was better at scoring goals he would have scored more goals?