CB Fry

I know both sides on here like to claim "British people are stupid" so we all have free reign to use it and I am going to carry on. That moment on Question Time you describe was depressing beyond belief. There's a huge chunk of people who are really interested in anything other than sticking it to the krauts and nebulous concept of sovereignty. Then that clever pr ick in the audience piped up and said "I've done some maths and added up what we spend on the EU and oh look over twenty years it's XXX trillion so we can write the deficit off etc etc". Cue more cheers and the idiot Hoey saying "you should be in the treasury". Yeah, that's definitely how it will work. Just a great big free pot of money. As long as they don't get too shrill, the outs should win this easily.

When John Lydon got the Sex Pistols back together back in the 1990s I admired their candour when they were quite unabashed about their true motives of making an effing mint. It's a shame most hide behind platitudes and obfuscation while planning to hoover it up.

I know for a fact that he's putting a downpayment on a bungalow at the posh end of Albufeira.

For the second time, on the same thread, on the same day, I'm not defending them.

Where have I said nut in the post you quoted? Verbal used that word and, by jiggidy, I am going to take him to task for that. That police officer has my warped respect for managing to proper coin it on the back of a high profile case he managed to botch to high heaven, made high profile entirely by the parents of the girl that he's a nothing but a parasite of. He's probably earned himself a spanking new conservatory now his book of fearless truth seeking is back in print. Ching ching my old son.

I'm not defending them. I'm mocking you and conspiro-idiots.

You're such a nincompoop.

A few divs on the internet's "quest for the truth" is another person's comedy gold.

I don't think they're squeaky clean, just another fictitious opinion you've decided I think. It's a terrible habit.

Linda Smith died ten years ago.

I agree with you about the £4,300 household income thing, it's a terrible bit of massaging of figures which, as you say, you can drive a truck through the holes in it. I'd thought when it was announced that George has come up with a number that is so implausible it won't stick anyway. We'll see. But, Intentionally and relentlessly repeating a big number that is clearly and known to be false has been a UKIP tactic for a long time so maybe Remain wanted their own one to try and hammer into people's heads. That little Hoey snippet is a nice reposte to the fiction that the debate is 50/50, that no one can predict anything and it's all one great big unforecastable mystery whichever way we go. If that was truly the case we'd be seeing something resembling a plurality of outcomes/opinions/models/forecasts. As everyone's new favourite D-list New Labour junior minister from the late 90s ("always admired her, I have") has shown, there isn't that at all.

You enjoyed the Daily Politics today then. I've just seen this bit:

http://order-order.com/2016/04/20/team-corbyn-not-sure-hell-be-leader-by-end-of-year/ Nice administrative error.

Do anything like what?

He's seen a six hour video on it and everything.

This made me actually laugh out loud. Have to say was one of those celebrity deaths which do feel like a mini shock. Clearly we weren't ready for her to leave us just yet. A supreme talent and very hard-worker. She's the kind of person I'd want my daughters to aspire to be.

Maybe - fourth punished as well if both EL and CL are won by English teams. Just how it goes. Suppose it reiterates why the cups have value. Win either cup and you are in Europe come what may.

Where are people getting the fourth Europa League place from? I'm not seeing it anywhere, and I can only see it as (maximum) 5+3, with the team in fourth getting the league based EL spot (the one usually for the team in fifth) with the other two for the two cup winners*. *yes, I know.

Yes he does. Oh yes he does. If you want an fantastic insight into SOG's true mindset take a wander through this masterpiece of a thread. Proper mental. Or, go outside, take a stroll in a park. It's lovely out (in the Midlands anyway).

I think we have accept that other forums have wind-up merchants as well.

Why would that happen? We get three EL spots, only one of them is directly related to league finish - 5th in a normal season. The other two are for the cup winners. If the cup winners are also top five (not top six) then the EL places start to move down the league spots. It's always been the case that sixth and seventh have to hope a big club wins the cups or they win the cup themselves.

In fairness if I was a Pompey fan I would be fuming. They don't need "extra investment" or "ambition" to get out of pigging league 2. They have huge gates and income meaning they should be strolling it. They can save the ambition for when they need to clamber out of (or stay in) League 1. By any measure they should be top 3 all day long this season. Simply hilarious they haven't even nailed down a play off place yet.

York City are magic. Are magic. Are magic. Are magic.

They would have mentally banked those points in hand weeks ago. Oh dear oh dear. Massive, massive club.

I don't fully understand the rules either, but there's no way we'll have nine clubs in Europe. 4 CL and 3 EL in a standard season. Or, if Liverpool win the EL then 5 CL and 3 EL Or if Man City win the CL and Liverpool then the total doesn't change, it just gets shifted about a bit and 4th gets EL instead of CL. Still 5 and 3. This isn't quite a fun as last year's FA Cup runners up stuff it's fair to say.