CB Fry

...and absolutely zero potential to be the next Man City. No one is going to buy us to plough hundreds of millions in. They are better off buying one of several other clubs with at least a chance of being a global brand. We ain't and never will. Face it Alpine. Those unrivalled years of success, those triumphant days of slaying that footballing giant Carlisle United in what could be our finest ever hour for our greatest trophy, that unrivalled season of finishing fourteenth in the Premier League like we had never done before. Face it. It's over. 14th in the Premier League might never happen again. Just a crazy unrivalled dream.

Because they're not sheep brainwashed by the evil mainstream media like what I am and you is. They're, like, special and clever and freethinking and stuff.

You are wasting your time. Pap is only interested in splitting pointless hairs about manufactured inconsistencies in stuff he knows nothing about: the conspiro - idiots' failsafe "a skyscraper wouldn't fall down like that" routine. The bigger picture - the how and why - he will swerve and run.

It's been pi sing it down in the Midlands. Turnout won't pass 40%, probably nowhere near.

You are right. I am asking for impossible proof, or as it is known on earth, the utter fantasy land guff you and your conspire - idiots **** into a sock about. So you have no theory whatsoever about why the American government would wilfully kill its own people, and no theory whatsoever about how they planned, executed and subsequently completely covered up that heinous crime. Maybe you and your chums should start there instead of blathering on about dust particles and bags of sugar. It's called having some perspective. So, lets start thinking. Someone had an idea. Let's see if we can kill hundreds of New York Civilians on one day. That person takes that idea to his boss. His boss says good idea, I like it, but we need to check with x. X says yes, I like it but have you thought about Y and Z and by the way A is an expert on this kind of thing you'd better speak to them. A gets involved and says yes great idea, I like it, but I need a meeting with B and C because I'm not sure those bits are feasible. C says he isn't sure but has a chat with D and after D checks back with the guy with the original idea and his boss, just for clarity on the timings and resources needed. And suggests F might be a good help. F also brings in his deputy G to help out. G mentions casually to B about how lucky it is that all these people in the early planning stages of staging a mass murder of hundreds of millions of new yorkers by flying planes I to the world effing trade centre have not for one second thought it was a bad idea or considered trying to stop it. B agrees and hastily writes "don't tell ANYONE " and circles it in his notebook.

Stop engaging Pap on miniscule details he can half argue with his ragbag of artificial assertions and strawmen. The planes never done it. Fine. Pap wins that one hands down. Who dun it, Pap? Who was in the meeting room when they flip charted options for mass civilian murder, and who made the final decision of "yep, lets go with the sky scraper plane thing. I like it better than the subway gas attack. Better for TV. Right, who is project managing this one then? Oh, and don't tell a soul or nothing, remember. " Who dun it? And why?

Where has it been proven? Spain? Italy? World Cups? European Championships?

This. Easy life, and a few cracks at the Champions league to get his European eye in. Then back down south in a few years to Newcastle or Villa or some other big club basket case.

SaintRichmond talking out of his arris again? Well I never.

Lallana's stag do is happening now in Miami. Adam Lallana is with the England squad. Pretty common knowledge now.

£52.7m from the shareholder according to the last set of effing accounts. But yeah, I'm the "dumb feck", Drunko.

A billionaire bankrolled us through two divisions, that's a fact. I am able to appreciate and enjoy that, not sneeringly dismiss it as a myth. Call me names if it makes you feel better, sweetheart.

Frank's figures not mine. My point was to dismiss that substantial amount as not being bankrolled is churlish and ungrateful.

You called winning a tin pot nothing trophy as unrivalled success you effing loon.

Spot on. Great post. This forum is populated by people behaving like spoilt children, merrily dismissing fifty odd million quid to a L1/NPC club as not being bankrolled, and at the same time whining about how terribly boring and depressing it would be to finish in eighth place again next season, even though we've only done that twice in 25 odd years. I'm with you. Support the team, come what may. And others can grizzle for it, but I am far happier seeing us achieving in a sustainable way, not some sugar daddy's plaything.

Your blasé attitude to "only" £46m quid as not being bankrolled through two divisions just shows how divorced from reality to actually are. You think that's just normal spending for L1 and Championship clubs, do you? And you've got the cheek to mock that as a "myth". And Cortese quitting because if lack of funding or disagreement over strategy is a bottle job. If you are going to go on Sky Sports and the Daily Mail peddling your vision to all and sundry, if you are going to honk out your "ask not if, but how" cliché all over the shop....Then probably best to not then walk out on that "vision" and that "how" merely a couple of months later. Because that demonstrates conclusively one of two things, if not both: a) superficial commitment to the vision, leaving at the first sign of adversity b) no grasp of the "how" at all, because aligning your boss with the vision is step one on the "how" list. And quitting is also not "how" anyway. He quit Franko. He quit. That is a simple fact. Massive vision speeches is easy if your commitment to them is so flimsy you stroll out saying what might have been within months. So remind me, what are these myths again?

I enjoyed it. One of the best days of my Saints supporting life, we might not get to Wembley again for a while. It does not, however, form part of an "unrivalled period of success" for Southampton Football Club. It's a pretty worthless small club tin pot trophy.

Too right. Pretty small minded to call 2nd place in L1 and winning the bottom divisions trophy as unrivalled success in our history. For Leyton Orient maybe, but my horizons are far bigger than that.

Winning the FL trophy is unrivalled success vs being in the FA Cup final. Right. Let's remember that next time you are going apesh it about out lack of ambition. Which, I guess, will be tomorrow.

Entirely self-funded as well. And we moved to a new stadium. And Le Tiss scoring the last goal at the Dell. And if we are mentioning World Cups, Svennson vs the Argies was pretty darn satisfying too. But nothing to ever "rival" steamrollering to second place in League One powered by a billionaire.

Not really. I understand what "unrivalled" means. And, well, you don't seem to.

Who is being uppity sweetheart? Not me. But this guy....

Laughable. Not really talking crap to be able to easily name two periods in our history (not the 18-1900s ones, that was a lickle joke on my part) that were just as successful as our "unprecedented" five years (that you moaned like a slag though out all of). But the late 70s to 80s and the 1990 to 2004 were equally if not more successful than your unprecedented period of success of finishing an amazing 7th in League One and a world beating 14th in the Premier League. Ohhh, so unprecedented.

Superfan Alpine ("we're a bunch of bottlers, Wigan/West Ham/Huddersfield are showing us how it's done, we're going down/blown promotion") and Strawlock have decided otherwise. It's their phenomenal perspective what they have got, you know.

1979-85.