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Disagree really. I’m not at all a fan of Adams but him and Armstrong have both proven themselves in this league scoring 20 + a season each . Then we have Mara I know a lot of fans think he sucks atm but think it’s a bit unfair to judge him since he’s mainly been a bit part player, he’s getting a load of stick for not impacting a game in the fifteen minutes he gets off the bench but this isn’t easy for any player. Give him a run in the side who knows ? He’s scored goals in the Prem so could step up .

From reading Sunderland’s fans comments on him I get the feeling he could be our new Rickie lambert.. described him as a natural finisher that can score all types of goals decent with both feet and in the air. And also good touch and work rate .. some also thought he was kevin Phillips good . Sounds great

If you tried to look at this debate without the hindsight glasses on though I think you would easily go for our current squad .. The promotion team was basically a mix of players who had stepped up from league one .. even lambert unproven in the championship whilst current squad many have played at prem level some still looking good there like kwp Alcaraz sula .strikers having proven 20 goal seasons like AA and Adams’.. i think it would be hard to argue the promotion team look better on paper if you didn’t already they got promoted and went on to better

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I don’t think sub appearances really count for much really no .. it paints a skewed picture especially when used in the way he played 53 times for us.onuachu had 11 to his name how many proper starts did he get ? 3 ? If Adams got the same amount of chances he wouldn’t have done fuck all either . martin I’s the first manager we have had that is preferring Armstrong (at least since the first few weeks of his saints career) and now he’s getting his confidence up because of the faith in him .. time will tell if he ends up better for us then Adams ever was

I think those 53 games you quote probably count sub appearances .. it has onuachu down as 11 games too .. i don’t thing AA really got a decent run in the side going .. his debut season he started ok then broja kinda took over(deservedly ) after that he kinda in and out and playing out of position sometimes . But no real prolonged run where he could get his confidence up .. compare that to Adams when he joined he had months and months on end of playing and not scoring but still kept his place .. he was alright when he had ings doing the goal scoring .. but last season we just kinda relentlessly started him even though he couldn’t hit a barn door for much of it.. we know exactly what we are getting with Adams but I think with AA it’s still open and it’s possible with confidence he could really catch fire 🔥

I’d argue we didn’t give him much of a run in the prem whilst with Adams we did and totally know what he’s good and bad at .. you can tell Armstrong is a confidence player .. with the manager fully believing in him I think he’s gonna really light up

This is it with him I think . He started great with us .. then was in and out the team under Ralph. His confidence then looked shot.. martin is the first manager who’s really put faith in him since he’s been with us and now we are starting to see what he can he do .. our results this season are a lot better with him in the team and not with che starting .

Close to the best side we could put out today . Fair play to Martin. Loving the confidence AA is finding now it’s time he plays instead of che two great finishes. Always thought Sulamana would be a class above in this division.. once we get our attack settled and clicking it’s gonna be really juicy ! also kwp really looking good again super ball for AA’s first

Not really But I think it shows we had no real effort or plan to keep anyone. And also the way we sell ourselves as a team to join to get a better move - now the chips are down nobody wants to be here and that probably reflects in performances and also that those who congratulated the club on a great transfer window,it’s probably more by luck that we managed to keep the likes of Adams Sulemana kwp etc

A handful of Southampton players did not know they were staying at the club until deadline day, & found it hard to get their heads around not leaving #saintsfc @TheAthleticFC this just shows we bascally had no real intent to keep anyone. The only players we managed to keep where the ones who didn’t manage to orchestrate their way outta here.

This is it, with the squad at his disposal I think the par has to be challenging for automatic promotion and at the moment he’s falling well short, player wise we have easily some of the best in the league and the only real weak points are goalkeeper and strikers still but even the strikers you can argue AA and adams have hit 20 plus goals each in the league before. I think the trouble with this possession style football is it gives the opponents a lot of time to organise themselves defensively and then when they break hit us outnumbered.. even Spain we have seen struggle against weak teams who just set up to defend and counter this. at the moment you gotta say we are suffering because of martins tactics and he looks totally all in on this philosophy so will be stubborn to change.:all his excuses sound a bit ridicolous and why do they only effect us ?

Think it’s gonna be very difficult to turn this round now, it’s going a very similar direction to jones with the fans its a problem with these philosophy managers who stick with their game through thick and thin even though everyone know how we will play and how to deal with it . Looks like at Swansea the run they went on was when he finally changed tactics due to pressure, but we need results now! He really needs to shape up quick as it’s killing our promotion chances .. ar the moment I’m leaning out as I think he’s too stubborn to change

All I’m saying is it’s a bit laughable that people are talking like automatic promotion is dead like it’s a fact .. anything could happen at this stage, win our next three games we are right back in it.. we might even sack Rm, also. I’m not defending martin or his tactics or performances but it’s super early days

Why is everyone talking like automatic promotion is already over ?? We lost 3 games .. still plenty of time if we pick up and get a consistent run going

Even though it seems a obvious move to take Charles out of cb position, I get the feeling Martin is trying to use him as some kind of comfortable on the ball passing centre back which fits in with the playing out from the back philosophy..

Having the only teams he’s managed being Barca Bayern and city probably helps as well .. even jones would succeed in those jobs .. I’d like to see how good pep would be at a Everton or similar job

This is the thing,, we know he’s gonna stick to his beliefs and tactics and that’s what landed him the gig in the first place .. so he’s obviously not gonna say things that admits he was wrong and backs him into a corner where he can’t use his preferred tactics..

I’m just saying if he comes out and says his tactics are wrong it makes him look bad and also backs him into a corner with using the tactics he believes in , on the other hand if he try’s to take a positive spin on the bad result everyone thinks he’s deluded

Too much hysteric reactions to these press conferences imo same with nj .. whatever Any manager says after shit results can be torn apart really

Whilst I’m not gonna jump all over him it’s not really the same team that the other managers had is it ? We have had quite a turnover of players and it’s a lower league so we can’t just palm it off as this

But surely you haven’t seen him enough to have much of a opinion nor have any of us ..his touch didn’t look too bad he didn’t effect any games In his limited minutes but also didn’t really do anything wrong.. always find it weird that players who hardly get any game time get so bashed on here Orsic likewise .. everyone wanks over them when we sign them .. 2 appearances later they are labelled dog shit lol

Issue for me is we had a team capable of killing the championship .. can understand letting ward prowse and lavia go to make our money ..but selling the likes of tella is just weakening us for the sake of him also wanting to go ..how will you feel in the last week if we also lose kwp sulemana Alcaraz and anyone else of worth .. it’s not like we are gonna replace them with better .. and us getting back to the top flight should be the priority

We said no to schneiderlin and van dijk in the past .. and kept plenty of good players .. I just think it’s setting a dangerous image of us as a club that we won’t stop anyone leaving .. I also think it’s moved on worse nowadays in the form of tapping up .. when it happened with van dijk we made a big deal about it .. pretty sure it’s done now or though agents all the time .. won’t be long before the likes of West Ham villa etc will be plundering us even if we get back to the premiership Imo .. u can never really move forward like this

I think it’s a pretty depressing outlook for the future that we just seem happy to let any player who wants to move move.. I get we are in the championship but at some point you would think we would be like that’s enough sales now . can’t really see this changing even if we get to the premiership.. we just seem totally incapable of any kind of stand against the players wishes under the current board .. even when it’s more for the good of them then the club