DT

Cantona has a lot to answer for

speaking of which, is Bertrand still 'ill'?

Weird how he put Seager on the bench against Palace then

No January signings or some sort of movement on manager/morale and we'll join Villa and Sunderland

Oh good. Another midfielder when we need a striker and defenders.

when they get on the pitch...

Man Utd fan who lives outside Manchester shocker

All the corners he delivered with accuracy, which made a change from Targett or Davis ballooning theirs into the crowd

Really hope that wasn't 'ill'. ie sold.

Shall we go back to the mostly-Brit, young, high energy approach with a team working as a team? Seems to work against all the overpaid divas...

Agree with this. But the worst thing is the distinct lack of morale and team-ness. They look like a bunch of individuals who don't give a toss for each other. Targett is so shockingly adrift it's laughable. In that period of okay play in the first half we had two corners which he blasted straight into touch. Unforgivable. His positional awareness was atrocious and he was skinned a lot. Was this Koeman's way of showing that the academy are way off? If so it's cynical and another reason why he's lost it. Long was appalling, but not served well. Mane never shoots but at least looked a threat. Yoshida is not up to it at all. VVD was excellent, and hard to beat in the air. Clasie was a bit too neat and namby pamby for this league. I'm guessing Wanyama not being near the team means he's off. Ward Prowse showed the kind of delivery, for once, that we are missing, with some pin-point corners and a free kick which was saved by their (excellent) keeper. And at least we had a bit of zip for the last 10. But why so late? Why such a weird selection? Why is there so much lacking in team spirit and atmosphere? Even the goalies warming up before the game all looked like they couldn't wait to get home for their supper. And Stekkers seems a bit of an invisible keeper to me. All in all, it was a depressing afternoon in the rain. Is Koeman now hoping to get sacked? Why else is this clearly good manager getting it all so wrong and being upstaged by Pardew? Or is this what happens? We lure good managers who are beyond our payscale and get so frustrated by our position that they agitate for a move to a new club where they can perform (Poch). It feels like a pattern, as some of us were moaning about Poch's lack of plan b when that got similarly dreary. And look at him now. (sort of) I took my 9 year old boy yesterday and his mate and they were puzzled why we can't play like we do against big teams against the smaller ones. I had no answer.

Very flat atmosphere here too

Our corner delivery is atrocious.

Yoshida pass completions. No.

Target can't seem to kick a football

I like him, and his loyalty. Wish he could shoot though.

Subtext: please let me have some money to spend at the transfer window

High quality debate today

Team selection tomorrow will be interesting...

Rupert out!

Agree with the sentiment, but the fact is that if HE wants to go, he will. And he will. We don't pay enough. I would like Saints to get a replacement who is as good, obviously. Not a Shlong.

He has occasional sparks of brilliance, can unquestionably offer something 'different', but often doesn't see the clever pass. Would gladly sell for £30m

I'd like us to put out our strongest team and secure a morale-boosting win. Weird, I know.

He'd be triffic

I wasn't being serious