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We just have to hope our mysterious owners don’t do a Pompey on us when we go down.

No, the connotations are obvious.his original painting didn’t look as bad but characters in this one are way too close to Nazi propaganda for there to be any doubt as to what the artist meant. The fact that it has taken 5 years fo4 people to get so outraged smacks of an anti Corbyn smear campaign tho. No doubt something else from years ago will be dug up to get outraged over before the local elections.

That was reported a while ago, one of their relatives said her boyfriend’s mother was high up in the Russian secret service. It would tie in with what an ex Russian agent was saying on radio 5 a while ago. He reckoned it made no sense killing the dad because he was a busted flush, they could have killed him at will years ago. The daughter could have been carrying on his work, if she was working for our secret service then it could explain why our government are so certain it was Putin. Everything about this is so cloak and dagger, there could be any amount of theories.

Compared to Trump, yes.

Three up front and Le Tiss as a holding midfielder - that would work well!

No because they are different people. Corbyn seems like quite a reasonably intelligent, principled chap. As someone who has campaigned against racism and bigotry it would seem odd for him to hate someone just because of their religion. Trump on the other hand...

Corbyn's problem is that he feels so strongly about the plight of the Palestinians that he has let that cloud his judgement about some obvious anti-semitism within the party and has led him to be associated with some pretty unsavoury people. I think he is also an agitator at heart so likes to cause a stir to bring attention to his main gripe of Israel, and pander to his friends on the extreme left. A decent leader would have stamped out anything that appears anti-semitic ages ago because the negative effects on the party are obvious. To claim he is thick enough to hate someone purely because of their race or religion is a bit dumb, especially considering his historic stance against apartheid.

I get what you’re saying about other evidence, we can’t prove Boris is lying unless we are privy to all the evidence. But surely if we are going to speculate, we can only go on what is in the public domain and you have to say that on what information we have it does appear that he is misrepresenting the scientific evidence. Politicians of all colours lie, eggagerate and twist the facts to suit their own agendas - it would be good to hear the facts from the actual scientists as to why it is definitely a Russian made agent. So far all I have found online is that it is most likely Russian made but could be recreated by other scientists with the appropriate resources. I haven’t seen any evidence that rules out the possibility of another country’s secret service carrying it out to make it look like Russia.

Nobody is concluding anything but if a scientist says "novichok class or a closely related agent" that is what they conclude and it means there is not scientific evidence to say it is definitely Russian made Novichok. Scientists base their conclusions on their test results, not on an anti Russian agenda which the government obviously has. Wether there is other evidence or not is s different matter, but on this point the loony conspiracy nutcase appears to be correct.

You’re a paranoid loon. You can believe conspiracy theories about bankers without hating everyone of a certain religion. I understand how the theory can be used by anti semites as a way of fuelling hatred but believing some bizarre theory in itself doesn’t necessarily make you anti-Semitic.

Problem is if any politician dares to question what the government says or ask for more proof they are branded traitors and slaughtered by the press, as we have seen with Corbyn. It is obviously most likely that Russia did it but you need rocks in your head to not question what evidence there is after the lies our security services told us about WMDs in Iraq. Unfortunately many on here illustrate how sheepish the public are.

I have little interest in banking, bankers or their religions to be honest. The conspiracy theories are of even less interest to me. But if someone believes that a group of Jewish bankers are controlling everything I’m not sure how that equates to hating all Jews. How can any sane person blame everyone of a certain religion for what a few bankers are doing?

Oh come on. For all his faults he is clearly a reasonably intelligent bloke, the idea that he is thick enough to prejudge people based on what god they believe in is bonkers. It’s 2018 not 1918, the vast majority of people don’t give a **** about anyone’s religion. Even if he believes in the theory that some Jewish bankers are controlling everything or whatever, that doesn’t make him antisemetic, it just makes him a believer of a conspiracy theory.

Corbyn’s not anti Semitic, he just hates Israel.

Yeah, must be terrible to have their Zizzi closed for a couple of weeks.

They changed the rules straight after. I believe they couldn’t block it because he didn’t have a criminal conviction, he only didn’t have a conviction because he cut a deal and testified against the person he bribed who ended up being executed. He sounds like the sort of person who wouldn’t hesitate to do a Pompey on us if that’s the only way he get his money back.

According to a comment on the Echo: The loan from McQuarrie bank is purely so the club can access the money from the Premier League TV money before they get it as it comes in stages - nothing unusual in that at all..... So could just be a cash flow thing. **** knows, I find anything to do with finances insanely boring.

“What this press release fails to mention is that if you look at the companies house register for Southampton football club charges you will see that ALL future monies from the Premier League go directly to McQuarrie Bank to service the loan of 210m taken out by Mr Gao to buy the club off Kat.” Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

I dunno, I think to a degree some roles suited for women are undervalued because going back a few generations men were traditionally the bread winners while the women stayed at home. Those days are long gone and maybe the workplace needs to catch up? The caring profression IMO is grossly underpaid and they do an absolutely vital job. I could never do some of the jobs fiends of mine do, not even for double their money.

Or maybe there is a problem in that roles traditionally more suited to women are under valued? You would think that maybe the customer facing staff have more valuable skill set than those moving stuff about in a warehouse? Without knowing specifics it’s hard to say.

I like football and support England as much as Saints but I don’t get the need to follow them to every ****hole country regardless of risk. I’ve watched England abroad a few times and even in ‘friendly’ countries it has been pretty hostile. Our reputation means we are a target for all the local nutters so there is almost always going to be some amount of trouble. You couldn’t pay me to go to Russia, I don’t know who would be the biggest threat, the psycho hooligans or the police? It’s so easy to get caught up in trouble if you are unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. One minute you could be enjoying a vodka with some friendly locals, the next minute you could be in a Siberian prison facing 10 years of getting butt ****ed by a body builder.

Bates, Lawrie, Channon, Le Tiss

77 people burning to death is a bit different to a spy getting whacked and a couple of people getting ill as collateral damage.

Yosemite for me, spectacular views whatever way you look, being in California a short drive from San Fran makes it my favourite place. Venice is probably equally amazing in it’s own way tho, been there a few times and it never stops being just as fascinating each time. Also love the Greek islands, Swiss Alps and Mayan ruins, particularly Tulum.

Cup, yes we would probably get dicked in the final but over 90 mins anything can happen - you’ve got to take a shot at getting a trophy. We can lose to Chelsea in the league and still stay up.