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You don't think 500,000 extra people every year has a major effect on the housing shortage?

I would prefer a Trump win purely for the comedy factor. Doubt even the Yanks would be dumb enough to vote him in though. May be closer than the polls suggest though, Clinton seems very unpopular as well so the fact that half the U.S. hate Trump could be irrelivant if they don't get off their arses and vote. Also if Trump inspires a lot of people who don't usually vote to do so then it could make the polls even further off.

You really do talk out of your arse. If anything discriminating against commonwealth countries in favour of the EU could be considered favouring whites.

I think most people vote for selfish reasons to be honest. Anyway you could argue that staying in the EU limits the opportunities of the young to own their own home or for unskilled young to earn a decent wage.

Absolutely, you can vote for whatever is important to you.

The thing is, if some lonely old sod voted leave because he's fed up with his neighbours all speaking a different language that's just as valid a reason as you voting remain because you want to spend more on holiday.

Just like some people would believed all the crap spouted by the remainers - that's politics. Both sides had more than enough time and opportunity to refute each other's claims. Problem is the remain camp avoided the subject of how much we paid to Europe like the plague - because they didn't want the public to know.

Well we had the emergency Brexit budget that didn't happen. A PM resigning that wasn't going to happen. World war three, financial meltdown etc etc The £350m bus wasn't even a promise or a manifesto from a government who could implement it, it was a suggestion by an independent campaign. There are disputes about the figures involved which were obviously dodgy but the point about spending our money elsewhere was valid. The funny thing about the remoaners banging on about that bus thing is that during the entire campaign I never once heard a remainer say what the correct amount of money we send over to Brussels every day was. How many hundreds of millions a day we subsidise Poland and Romania, and pay the EU bureaucrats appeared to be a very hush hush subject.

Should the remain campaign be prosecuted for their lies as well?

Watched it last night, he comes across as being guilty to me. Too many dodgy answers to the questions he was given, considering he is already inside facing life - if he was innocent there would be no reason lie or give vague answers in that situation. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence - without seeing all of it presented in context you cannot draw any conclusions so a TV show showing some is a bit pointless.

Given that the effects of mass immigration are mostly felt by the low paid it is not exactly surprising what the stats show. The idea that you can class Brexit voters as rich or poor, educated or thick is just nonsense - it's a few percent either way - and that's from polls probably carried out by the people who always get it wrong. The reason I sided with leave was nothing to do with the likes of Goldman Sachs - Purely the effects of mass uncontrolled immigration. Wages being depressed, services over stretched and the housing crisis. I was just glad people ignored the scare stories from the so called big business leaders because their concerns were purely selfish.

What a load of old cock. Generalise all Brexit voters as poor and eneducated, then conclude that all poor and uneducated will be worse off than rich educated after we leave. Yeah genius that. Just some Uni lecturer who is so detached from reality that he is struggling to understand why people voted out.

From what I remember of Uni I expect most rich foreign students will do **** all part time work while they are studying. Of course not all will go on to be high-earners but i would rather have highly educated immigrants than people who turn up in the hope of picking some cabbages.

I'm not sure foreign students pouring money into our education system, then staying on to do high qualified work is much of an issue though.

If we apply the same restriction on EU immigrants as we do non EU then 75% wouldn't get in.

Except this government was elected on the promise of a refurendum.

Those plebs see that as a better alternative to what they have at the moment. Might want to ask them why and you may understand why they voted leave.

I'm trying to think of one good reason why the next manager has to be English.

Decent result considering the team we put out. Makes you wish we had invested in a better squad during the summer.

Yeah that's how democracy works, how it has always worked, those that give a **** either way vote, those that don't care either way don't bother. Not sure what your point is.

To be honest your tone of voice is one of the angriest on here. A bit pathetic trying to link the actions of a few idiots to the people who voted Brexit - which is the majority of people in your country. Maybe if you had the intelligence to empathise with your countryfolk and understand why they voted out you wouldn't be quite so angry.

Good, **** manager. I just hope they hire the next guy because they are the best person available, not just because they are ****ing English.

If Labour offered a decent alternative UKIP wouldn't have to win one seat to be a threat, just have to take enough of the Tory vote. Corbyn means that won't happen though. But fact is at the next Election Labour can play the back in EU card wheras the Tories have to keep the right happy.

Agree, but I think either a Brexit Lite, or a Full on Brexit resulting in a bad effect on the economy would see swathes of middle England turning to a pro EU labour - if it was centre left with a decent leader.

True, but I think the Tories have got themselves in a tricky position. If May pussies out and goes for some sort of soft Brexit they will get a kicking. They have to somehow make a hard exit work to keep their right wingers from turning to UKIP.