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More like one was advisory and one never happened. The sooner we get PR and get rid of this red v blue ****** the sooner we might sort out the mess we are in. The refurendum just turned into a internal squabble between a bunch of ****** tories, Labour is a complete mess, hopefully this current crisis will be the end of both.

Another one gone, this is getting silly now. We had better buy a decent replacement.

Eagle, seriously! Just when the country desperately needs a decent opposition this is the best the Labour party can do. **** me what a mess. I know appearance are not everything but it does count and that ugly ***** won't ever get elected as PM. labour need too sort their **** out because if they can't even sort out an decent leader how the hell are the country supposed to trust them to run the country.

Choosing not to vote IS having a say. You are saying you don't care either way.

What a load of typical arrogant British ******.

Parliament is sovereign but this government was elected on the promise of holding a refurendum, in their judgement this was an issue that the people should decide and the people chose to leave. The question was simple, the positives and negatives of both options clear and the peoples decision was clear. In theory the government could ignore the result but that would be a very dangerous route to take in a country where huge amounts of people are obviously already ****ed off.

Well what a surprise, a demo against Police shooting blacks turns into a shoot-out. Guess their plod have figured out what happens if you go round shooting people in a country where you can buy assault rifles over the counter.

I think it would take a bigger stretch of the imagination to think that the US would spend £2 trillion on a war because Saddam Hussein was a rather nasty man.

War is expensive but when the US army pay $115,000 for a Hellfire the money goes to Lockheed Martin.

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Do you really think they would put it down in an email if it was?

i think it was more about the control of oil. Plus though there was a cost to the tax payer, the oil, arms and security companies made money. You have to be naive in the extreme to not believe it was all about the oil. Blair and Bush should stand trial.

I would agree with that if there wasn't the problem with the potential break-up of the UK once we leave. Not many Tories would want that IMO.

Decent kit for a change

Iceland were that bad, they were awful. the second half was just a case of the French having already won and just had to see the game out without getting injuries or suspensions.

Makes sense to bring in more highly skilled people from America and Asia.

I think he meant only negotiate with the UK whilst it is a member state, after we leave I expect it would be a different story.

There is a fundamental difference between us and Italy and Germany. They are good at playing football and we are not. We are not even close, the sooner we accept that and stop this 'England expects' nonsense the better. We have won one trophy, donkeys years ago last century when we had home advantage. Despite having way more professional clubs than anyone, the best facilities and the most money - even with all these advantages we havn't been anywhere near the best footballing nations. It doesn't matter what manager, setup or whatever, we are just not good at it.

Jarvis does come across well. All this talk of terminal decline is nonsense, in Milliband and Corbyn they have just had two unelectable leaders. There is still a future for a centre left party, I don't think Blair got a lot wrong except for his criminal decision to invade Iraq which I hope he goes down for.

That's the problem we are going to have, there is a disconnect between the democratic will of the people and the EU officials who are not really accountable and have their own agenda - keep the EU gravy train going at all costs. The lack of any negotiation means the UK government either has to grow a pair of balls and press the 50 button or try and go back on the refurendum result somehow. A general election with a clear mandate is one way I suppose. As leaving the EU would probably mean the break up of the UK maybe another refurendum 'do you want to be in the UK in the EU, or Split up out' would be a fair question. I doubt many who voted leave, voted for the break up of the UK.

**** me, if it's a choice between Teresa May and Jeremy Corbyn at the next election there's going to be some weird results!

They are bound to say that ahead of two years of negotiations, they are not exactly going to say 'yes, the UK will probably get what they want' are they? All politicians are full of ****.

If it's been perfectly clear them might as well activate article 50 and crack on with it. The people have made their choice, like you say perfectly clear.

I just don't get what he and his supporters are hoping to achieve. Are they really that detached from reality that they think he actually might get elected? Or do they just hate the Blairites so much they are willing to **** up the whole party, and even the country? Madness

**** off Hodgson