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We could actually have a harder draw if we win the group, makes little difference.

Runner up.

This. It wouldn't surprise me if all this "leave is suddenly winning" nonsense has just been dreamt up by the people with vested interests to remain. Just like the first Irish referendum, apathy is the biggest danger to remain, but I still think they will win easy.

All stuff that British people used to do. Pay people a wage they can live on, and they will do the work.

True, only this morning on the radio there was a statement from the PM mentioning this tragedy and voting to remain in the same breath.

Yes, thought I made that quite clear in post no. 3233. Try reading.

Yes

It will take more than that to convince me that 300,000 more people turning up every year will mean better access to public services I'm afraid. That's just looks to me like economists playing around with stats, I prefer to listen to the people actually in the industry who know what thy are talking about.

These polls are useless, remain will win comfortably IMO.

I just don't see how a federal Europe will work, now can you have a union with a country like Poland who's average wage is around £600 a month?

Does anyone really believe all these scare stories? If we vote leave nothing much will change at all. There is no way in a million years we will leave the single market, it's not in anyone's interests in the UK or Europe to impose trade restrictions of any kind whatsoever. All that will happen is some sort of deal like Norway, the EU will make concessions on immigration, we will still pay some money in but have slightly more control on laws and our borders. The EU has turned into a monster, there is nothing stopping it moving towards a federal Europe unless a country like the UK puts the brakes on. The only way to get reform is to vote leave.

But we have no idea what the consequences will be so how can you plan a budget? Just bullsh!t scare mongering.

Virtually every country on the planet is a better place to live now than it was before we joined the EU. Countries develop, it's what happens.

This. You can't ignore the fact that killing gays IS the law in some Muslim countries.

True, but being in the EU = uncontrolled immigration. There are no grey areas.

40 lashes for having a drink, nice. That World Cup will be a right laff.

Agree. We would be nuts to let him leave.

So despite the negatives, leaving the EU means our products become more competitive, our industry is not hampered by EUs red tape, and the government can invest the billions it send to Bussel each year in British industry.

Wouldn't a lower pound actually help our manufacturing industry?

No reason why not, Leicester have shown that the glass ceiling is gone now. All depends on the manager though.

Wasn't the economic case for joining the Euro overwhelming? That turned out to be a bullet dodged. I can't see how these expects can make accurate predictions when no one knows what deal we would strike when we leave. I doubt we would leave the single market even if we left the EU.

Remain by a mile. The media like to portray it as being close just to make a story out of it, the Remain camp portray it as being close to stop their voters getting complacent, the Brexiters portray it as being close because they can't admit they have no chance.

TBF that also helps to get a bunch of multi-millionaire international footballers to listen to you. And also other players to sign for you.

Never said you didn't have history, just that you are Sh!te. As in the current team are not very good at playing football.

It's just a shame we had to lose him to a sh!te club like Everton, I would have understood if it was to a big club. Oh well, onwards and upwards. I expect they will still finish below us again next season.