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Of course they can. What’s that got to do with it?

What if the person saying it was Jewish?

Whilst Israel claim there is no humanitarian catastrophe unfolding.

I'm not pretending it's simple but the bottom line is if you steal peoples land and force them to live in a world of shit some of them will want to kill you. Whatever the history and complexities that was the situation prior to 7/10, it was simply not sustainable.

Bless you for not understanding but I was talking about Palestinian people not Hamas. Unless the reason WHY groups like Hamas get so much support is deal with there will always be a security threat to Israel and another 7/10. I did answer your question, the best start Israel can make to keeping their people safe is to stop stealing land and building illegal settlements whilst making Palestinians live in a world of shit under the blockade. If they have no hope of a decent life some are bound to want to take up arms and join groups like Hamas.

I wouldn’t keep stealing more Palestinian land and building more illegal settlements for a start. Israel obviously have no interest in a two state solution as long as they keep doing that. I get the reasons for the blockade but as long as the Palestinians have no hope they will bound to turn to extremism.

I never said that about ISIS, you are just making shit up.

I think their blatant disregard for the value of innocent Palestinian lives will make them less safe.

It’s not the reason it started but I still think the severity and nature of the response has plenty to do with the political situation Netanyahu has found himself in. A main responsibility of any government is to keep its people safe and Israel were caught with their pants down big time. An expert on the Middle East was saying that exact thing the other day on radio 5. The IDF need to be seen to be getting revenge whatever their long-term strategy. If you don’t know what they are protesting about by now there really is no help for you.

Maybe you should write a letter to the organisers to let them know.

I don’t think it’s about taking sides, more letting the government know what they think.

Think they just want to stop innocent people getting killed.

Publicity for the march not the war you bellend. People doing these things obviously want as many people to see and hear them as possible.

Probably to get more publicity. Edit: they have done it every Saturday since the war started.

This.

Just don’t see the problem in a march calling for a ceasefire, on a day that commemorates a ceasefire.

How is a march calling for a ceasefire in Gaza not a march for peace?

Surely it’s quite appropriate, they are marching to stop a war and save lives.

Seriously, who cares?

According to the below Israel actually help set up Hamas, backs up what I heard on the radio yesterday - Israeli supported them to undermine the PLO's attempt at a two state solution: https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

Of course you havn't, that's my point. Israeli's havn't been forced to live in an effective open prison for the last 15 years and had everything that comes in or out controlled by the people that stole their land. Whatever the reasons that led to that situation (I get the purpose of the blockade), it is a situation that is going to create hatred and spawn extremism. It was never going to be sustainable.

Maybe they would in that situation?

Maybe they could force the Israelis into a 365 sq km strip of land and control what goes in or out to make sure there is no bother?

Because they have had their land stolen and have been fucked over by Israel for years.

Yep, and in a few years time we will be back where we are today but worse. Great plan.