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I've got nothing against gays but this doesn't seem right, if you choose to go down the sausage sword fight route you should not expect to play happy families with kids etc. I thought these adoption rules were really strict, how can they ignore the possible negative effects of being brought up in such an odd environment.

Surely no one would cause trouble at a charity match in aid of cancer research!

Will be interesting to see how a smallish Championship club with no parachute money can accommodate an extra player on 37K a week wages!

There is no quotes or sources in that article so it could be just made up, but as Hypo says it could be true. I know it's not what we want to hear but that doesn't mean it is automatically b@ll@cks. I am not that bothered either way, we have no control over what the Leibherrs want to do. We could end up with a pompey style arab, or it could be a Man City style, it's pointless worrying.

I think you will find there are plenty of corrupt business people in Switzerland, even Gaydamak had a Swiss bank account.

We are still in the hunt for 2nd place, no chance of catching Brighton now though.

1st goal looked like it got past him too easy, 2nd he should have come out an caught it. Made a couple of good saves but I would be tempted to play Bart, every time a cross comes in I sh!t myself, the defence look nervous and the opposition look like they know he's not gonna come and get it as well.

The main gripe with the installments was that there was no notice given, then we were told it was "admin costs" Romseysaint got slated for proving this was b@ll@x and it turned out it was because of people not paying them. To say everyone agreed was nonsense. Cortese admited the handling wasnt OK when he said later there were problems. I remember loads of people backing the idiotic photographers ban. I'm not saying we should slate Cortese at every decision, just saying people should be honest and say when they think it is wrong. If Lowe had made ANY of those decisions he would have got a right kicking on here.

But the photographers thing proves I am right. As you say Cortese admits he was wrong, me and some other on here said he was wrong at the time and we had the usual "anti Cortese" cr@p thrown at us for simply daring to question his decision. It was obviously a dumb idea yet people on here refused to see it because it was Cortese's idea. The installment thing was the same, Cortese admits there were communication problems, anyone on here who moaned about the same thing were "anti cortese" as well. The same plebs said everything was OK when Cortese himself admitted later they were not.

I find it amazing how some people refuse point blank to question any decision Cortes makes, we've had the installment fiasco, the freezing out of legends, the photographers ban and now loyal fans being refused season tickets for something they said. We are all grateful the club was saved by Leibherr and Cortese, no one wants them to go or is unhappy about what's happening in general - that doesn't mean you have to agree with every decision made. Some people need to grow some balls and be honest. If I was Cortese I would welcome constructive criticism, he is new to the industry he is in - he is going to make mistakes. The best way to improve in his role is to get honest feedback, not spineless "you saved our club so are correct sir Cortese".

I don't give a monkeys about Illingsworth, I've never met the bloke but he's obviously a bit of a t!t and the Saints Trust is just a vehicle for his big mouth. It's the principle that's important. If decent Saints supporters are being refused a season ticket because someone doesn't agree with what they said (which is how this appears) it's just plain wrong - this is not f*cking China.

There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with some of the clubs decisions Frank, just like if we question Adkins' decisions - doesn't mean we are unhappy with him as manager or want him sacked. Just means we disagree. I am more than happy with Cortese, what he and the Leibherr's have done is fantastic. I wouldn't want any other owners. Still think fans shouldn't be refused a season ticket for what they say though.

I agree, it is pathetic. Whenever I have seen him quoted or on TV it is obviously just one bloke giving an opinion. Anyone who has a problem with that has issues IMO.

Because they want to?

I think you will find the media call him "Saints Trust Chairman" because he is the Saints Trust Chairman, not exactly his fault. The media do it because it sounds better than "we're here at St Mary's talking to some ugly bloke".

This thread is just going round in circles.

It would be fantastic if it all came crashing down.

Seriously, what is that logo supposed to be? Looks like a Devils fork and a broom!

I would guess it was his criticism of the ST installment fiasco, fits in with Cortese's other dummy-out-of-pram moments.

I seriously doubt he's hacked off with Illingsworth because the beer was a bit expensive at some party.

Delldays, I doubt Cortese even went to Silverspoons, he probably made his own arrangements.

You're assuming Nick still wants to go on a game by game basis, I would tell them to go poke it. At best I would cherry pick the occasional good game. I fail to see how turning down £400 odd ST money is in the interest of SFC.

I think if you had been refused a ticket and not told why you would be annoyed. Anyway, wether it was for something he said (he was scathing about the ST thing) or something he did (Tshirts, Wembley thing etc) I still don't see how it is in SFC's interest to not take his money.

So in short, it's OK for the club to refuse to sell you a ticket without giving any reason because you don't know what the reason is so it may be valid.

Sounds more like wrong driving technique than wrong place or time, he has every wright to claim what he wants.