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You either work for the OS or you've found your new job after escping Iraq. People that know the score would appreciate that I'm certainly no apologist for Chorley, but to paint this episode as Chorley coining Lowe is scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's cringeable that this notice has appeared on our OS and smacks more of one mans personal crusade against his critcs than anything to do with our Club. PS Just for those who like to make a mountain out of a molehill, my reference to Iraq is in no way linking the Club, it's employees, Lowe or anyone else to the murderous and undemocratic regime that operated in that country for decades and which I opposed unequivocally. It was a mere pun, and a play on the fact that Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaaf (i.e. Comical Ali) is now a by-word for Bullshi7yt propaganda being spouted by the establishment.

So just what are the powers of administrators??? Are you now telling us what analogies we can make (if so please supply a list of banned ananlogies). If I've missed that in the rules then feel free to let me know where I should be looking. If anything, you're the one making light of some serious sh*t, but trying to link posts with things that people never ever intended to in the first place. You're the one taken things out of context.

All I've been doing is replying to some outrageous accusations from yourself and DPS. If you hadn't made such ridiculous accusations, then I would not have replied. It's as simple as that. If people accuse me of something that was never my intention then I wll reply informing them of that.

Fccluk me, it took you quite a while to work that one out. The analogy was that by withdrawing from the vote, Tsvangirai gained some excellent publicity and effectively rendered the vote invalid and worthless meaning that although Mugabe won it was widely seen as a hollow victory. That's what i was referring to, nothing to with Mugabe being a brutal dictator etc etc etc, and certainly not comapring Lowe or the context with the atorcities happening out there (hence my fccuking big caveat that you and Ponty seemed to have missed). Comprende??? Or is that still too hard for you to absorb?

Why the fccukc do you think I put that line in there saying, in no way am I comparing Lowe to Mugabe, right from the very start. I'll give you a little clue, because I think there is no way you can compare Lowe with the actions of a brutal dictator, so that is why I find it slightly sanctimonious, if not a tad thick, that some can't seem to understand that:rolleyes: You carry on raising that posse boy, you can be Deputy to DPS's Sherriff, and you can go looking for your next piece of sport:smt078. If you do not have the ability to read caveats, and see that people were referring to the process of withdrawing from a vote, as opposed to debating the morality and actions of an African dictator, then the pair of you are a couple of przie fccukcing idiots worthy of your badges.

Put that comma in the above statement and we have solved the problem of what to with Jan.

heard a whisper that Rasiak was signed on just under 20,000 a week and always thought he was our highest earner.

How very, very, very dare you:rolleyes::rolleyes: Saddle up, read the post (particularly the bit that says and no I don't think Lowe is comparable with Mugabe, put in there becuase otherwise I knew some idiots would raise the sanctimonious posse, but sadly it still hasn't stopped some making something out of nothing) and then kindly fccuk off Sherriff Sanctimonious. Yee-ha.

Before we slash our wrists, I think we would do well to consider who said this and in what context as the accompanying lines (see my post above) don't stack up. I can only think that this has to be Stern John, but I wonder exactly how the deal was structured (were Sunderland reimbursing us, was some of his wages taken account of in the Jones transfer fee etc etc etc). It wouldn't surprise me if we probably had to pay his full wages, but got a one off lump sum from Sunderland to compensate for this, but someone is using the gross figure as a stick to beat others with. The very fact that the accompanying numbers don't stack up means I'm pretty wary of taking this on face value.

Whichever way you look at it, those numbers don't stack up. £25k a week is indeed £1.3m and 15% of last years revenue is £2.25m. An oversight, or a bit of spin that can't be substantiated?

I wouldn't say I rate Pearson in the manner you suggest, more that I saw enough on him at the back end of last season to give him a longer stint at the helm. He had managed to instill some pride and passion in the team and many supporters were ready to unite behind him. He was the one person I felt could provide any semblence of a galvanising spirit. Pearson was up front about the fact we would be losing the big earners and that the youngsters would play a more prominent role. Therefore I don't see that there would have been a hige difference from that point of view, but I do believe Pearson would have gone for more of a mix of youth and experience. There would also have been different transfer targets, loan signings, tactics, formation, strategies etc etc etc. IMHO Crouch was not stupid enough to realise that he could just plough on regardless. He had agreed a strategy that the Bank supported, which IMHO would have had to have meant cutbacks. What these would have been, what the priorities would be, I have no idea. Of course, attendances would have played a part and although I have no way of proving it, I do think they would have held up better under Pearson and Crouch. Not really, and I don't think Crouch has suggested that (unless I have missed something).

Pearson went on holiday to Malta thinking he had done enough to get the job. He was quite open with people saying he was willing to stay and work with whoever came in and after he sat down with Lowe he came out thinking about next season. I understand Pearson was shocked when he heard he didn't get the job and the line I also heard was that he was a tad miffed that Lowe had not told him face to face (or even via a telephone call).

Yee-ha, saddle up, the sanctimonious posse are in town. :smt078:smt078:smt078

And with all due respect, in this case you're trying to start an argument over something that patently does not exist. Meryy Xmas to you too.

Maybe that's where we've been going wrong all these years, in that the Academy has been churning out 4-3-3, interchangeable, and fluid players, and we've been trying to fit them into 4-4-2 first teams:rolleyes::rolleyes: Never bought this rubbish when it was first spouted, and certainly don't buy it now. Decent players should be able to slot into a number of different formations, otherwise we're saying that any players brought up on a 4-4-2 system can never play for Chelsea or Liverpoool.

You do indeed have to go higher than Carter and start asking those individuals as to why they have got into bed with the Club. IMHO, there can be no doubt that those at the typewriter are working within the confines of what others have told them. The closest we have got to any criticism of the current regime is Carter's piece suggesting the Dutch experiment isn't working, which was at least an attempt to tell it like it really is.

You'll have to trust me on this one fella, Pearson was more than happy to work with Lowe (which does suggest that Lowe is not viewed as evil by everyone, or, of course Pearson may just have really wanted to carry on regardless of his alledged meddling ways), but Lowe exercised the break clause so he could bring Jan in. There are others on here who were aware of Jan being in the background well before Lowe got his feet back under the table.

I don't have a scooby if he's got a brother or a sister, and I'm not married to anyone!!!!!! It was just a throwaway line to wind up the idiot that is Up and Away. (I'm sure Graham won't mind me taken his non existent sister in vain!!!)

When he went in late October, the OS read: The former Coventry and Birmingham star joins Gary Johnson's side until 1st Jaunary 2009. And as far as I can see, this is the first time that anyone has said it is for the reaminder of his contract.

And sanctimonious is your middle name right? As for being an idiot, well your reply confirms it pretty clearly from where I'm sat:rolleyes::rolleyes: You get on your high horse, yee-ha!

Pearson went on holiday to Malta after sitting down with Lowe and thought he had the job. He had no problems with any of the terms, the use of youngsters or that players would have to be sold. And call it semantics but his contract had not expired. It had another year to run (at least, but I'll find out for sure later if you want), but what was in place was a break clause exerciseable by both sides. Lowe exercised this break clause as he wanted to bring in his own man. that's fine by me, and he will live or die by that decision, but let's not try and rewrite history and suggest pearson left for any other reason than Lowe (& Wilde) wanted their own man in to replace him.

Well why don't you read the little caveat I put there just to make sure that idiots like you don't get on their sanctimonious high horses and ride off into the sunset. The situation of withdrawing from a vote sometimes has equal or even more less power than partaking in the vote, not that there are any similarities in the events and actions of Mugabe and Lowe:rolleyes::rolleyes: Santimonious me up.

Maybe, but I also think he's alienated a few who were still supportive of him and has also raised the anti of those who think he needs to step down. If anything, I now predict an upping of vitriol, protests and other forms of attacks, none of which can be called unifying in any sense of the term (unless you consider unifying against him is positive news for the Club). I liken it to when Bush won that tight vote in the USA in 2005 and Obama commented that rather than see such a tight victory as a call to humility, compromise and a need to reunite the country, it was instead seen as irrefutable mandate and the divisions became even deeper.

I'm not so sure. He was never going to be defeated in a vote and the BBC have covered it as a mass walk out of shareholders, so maybe there was some logic in just getting up and walking out. In a way, the Mugabe analogy is pretty good, as Tsvangirai's actions certainly meant Mugabe only scored a hollow victory.

I may be really out of touch and am only going on rough guesstimates, but I can't believe we have reduced our net debt.