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I thought he did it purposely when KWP did the diving header and needed treatment, he went off, we were down to 9 men, forster looked like he purposely booted out so KWP could be wave back on the field. I clapped too, as I thought that was smart. If he kicked in infield that cheating ref may not have wave him straight on, or an attack may have happened before he could get back to his defensive position, from the halfway line he had to return to the filed from. The rest looked like he tried to play to the wings but sliced them just out.

F#ck you ref, well done Saints, great character to hold onto that draw!

Cheating ref , 12th man for Spurs, I bet we get lots of extra time if we are still 1-1, and play over that time to give Spurs a chance.

Well done Saints, great win! Well done Ralf!! Well done jWP, Moi and JB, all giving their all to the shirt. Keep the good times going!!

I agree, he controlled the ball advantageously for himself with his elbow . Definition of hand ball to everyone but those clowns called refs

You have no clue.....do you like the way Liverpool play, Chealsea, rb lip or even man city? They are all employing Radnick ideas, which is a version of leeds beliesa style. When Spain destroyed everyone with the tic tac style, with the 7 players from the dominant Barcelona team in 2010 ( Pep is a student of Beliesa), the Germans took notice. They revamped their entire football structure, out of this change came the gegenpressing, which means counter pressing. Klopp had introduced this style to pool, but we had seen it with Poch. So the press and everything else you need to do to make it work has become the weapon of choice for PROGRESSIVE coaches. It allowed rb lip to challenge the elite because the press style can disrupt other team as they are being closed down and option are dwindling. So the really big teams that employ this will also have the great players that will make them very hard to beat if they can execute this demanding style. I am so happy we have a progressive coach and we can be part of this exciting style of playing ball.

Our defense is better because we have better defenders for Ralfs style, as mentioned the additions of Liv, Sal and Per have improved the speed and mobility of our back line. This is crucial for our pressing style, as we will have more one on one defending. Dudman, can you not see he has developed the team to his style, he did not let up on the press, it was drilled into them over this summer, and the whole time he has been here.....that how hard it is to get this pressing style right. It was shown in patches how good it can be, but injuries, lack of quality players etc. This year we executed Ralfs playbook much better because we have better understanding of what is required and better players to accomplish this. And with Ralfs PB we can punch above our weight as we have seen in patches and what he did with RB lip. Reading and learning ( not your strongest attribute) what Ralf press, automatism is all about , it is not a simple press, it has many moving parts, time to boot, where to boot, how to shift when pressing, then shift to defense when being attacked etc, there are quite a few good articles on what he is trying to accomplish and you will learn what he trying to accomplish. It's not Ralf listening to us forum floggers, it up to us to listen to him and what he is trying to implement! Dudman, you say jwp and diallo are too light weight last season, have they not improved? You can adjust your opinions over time? A young man like diallo won't get more muscle over a year? Have you not seen JWP getting stuck in, no longer the soft push over he was a few years ago. Saints go marching up!!

A lot of negativity at first signing. After seeing him on the pitch for our own eyes, if he lives up to the glowing scouting report ( "no significant weakness", I hope it wasn't written by his mum) he will be a world beater !! Posted August 25 We have a Brazillian/Serbian! 6'2, hopefully with the skill worthy of the beautiful game and the grit and toughness of the Serbs. Played for the U23, U20 Brazilian national team, U18 Serbia NT so must have potential, might be great business if his talent lives up to pedigree. SAMBA SAINTS!

Well if that is a knee jerk condition, keep jerking, jerk, jerk...... Well said!! You see the picture simply and clearly. "The truth is there IF you look for it"

I think all this attention on Ralf is another example of how most people (pony) rate him as an excellent manager and is getting good results out of a limited budget team. We play a style that is pleasing to most fans. To suggest a contracted Manager in your own league shows alot of positives for Ralf and Saints, we are flattered but.......pony off! He is not done with this masterpiece he is sculpting SFC.

I think the players finally got it! Ralfs playbook is all about his pressing style and the automism within it. I like most thought wtf with the 9-0 drubbing, but right there he showed he was not going to back down from his press. I look back and think he said 1-0 or 9-0, I want you to keep practicing the press. We have to get it right! Shut up shop was not in his mind. In the summer he brought in players to compliment the press, trained all summer on the press and automism. Players now seem to understand what is required, our press is the best in the league! We have better coverage at the back and the off ball marking has improved. We now get all three teams now beginning to win using the playbook. It has taken a while, but what Ralf was trying to introduce was very difficult. Anyone who has played ball will know the style we play is very difficult achieve tactically and physically. We have recruited the right players and taken a couple of years to get it to this point. I think there is more to come as the playbook is ingrained further and the players improve with a clear path on what is needed. This year we have the press and automism working much better, step one completed, so Ralf has added better game control/ management. We press and rest intelligently. We will defend a lead in the second half if needed and getting better at it. Players are improving under him and the team cohesion and attitude looks great. My rose tinted glasses are full red, white and black! March on and up Saints!

You are a piece of work! U look at the likes you get , always the same old grumpy asses, negative, bullies that constantly try to derail an intelligent discussion with your negative drivile. You and your bully gang try to shit on anything positive. I read all post and I have my opinion of who understands football and who doesn't, I have seen your gang wrong on so many occasions and derail a good discussion to petty insults consistently. Your input is rarely insightful but most certainly going to be insulting! Come on give me shit, it is what your gang does best! Ps keep up the good work Twar and the like! Very intelligent postings, let me repeat it for the bully gang, VERY INTELLIGENT POST.

Pony! Sorry donkey! Sorry ass!

I keep seeing this, the chealsea loaner, Broga over our own strikers? I can see he is a special tallented kid, but each time he plays he is taking time away from the strikers we have brought and need to get scoring. I am all for playing the kid every now and then, but to bench our other strikers could be detrimental to the team long term. We can win without him. I don't know if Broga will ever be our player permanently, would love it to happen, but for now he cannot block the path of our permanent strikers who need to gain their form and confidence. I love the pressure he has put on them and I hope he will be a Saints signing one day.........

No to Eddie, I will stick with the big man! Well played Ralf and team, it is getting better each game, players are getting the system Ralf has employed and executing it much more effectively. He may be my favorite coach of all time. Why you say dat...many of the none Ralf fans cry out....because of the Man has a plan! A bloody playbook! A style that is exciting, brave, energetic and full of automism , I am learning Ralfy. He has employed the press better than any manager has, ( yes, better than Poch) but it took awhile, alot of triggers needed to be learned, pressing as a team, covering the spaces left by the pressure, etc. Ralf is so committed to his style he will not change his plans even when we are getting thumped, keep pressing, stretching, learn it as we loose, because we have to get it right! Tella's preseason interview confirmed that Ralf was drilling the press into them, so much that Tella thought we are much better at it and "any team that can defeat our press has done very well". I see it for myself, and it looks alot more solid, our defensive record is improving as we get better at the system. This is a very difficult system, even the master, Beliesa was shown how it is done! Ralf's passion to do better is infectious, he is totally living the game as it goes on. The recruiting since he has been here is excellent for the budget we have. Even the so called usless players (moi, redder, dj) are now being seen as good players, that is good coaching. Ralf may not be everyones cup of tea, but for me I would have no one else, a big man, big character, big ideas, big results and I big up my coach. Thank you for making Saints exciting again, win or loss, it is usually exciting ball. Ps. Found it very amusing watching Manu trying to press when they were loosing, not a CLUE! with the intro of Ronaldo this season, they will never be able to press a team effectively again. If it is a half hearted press it will fail and leave you more exposed. BIG UP THE TEAM, THEY ALL PLAYED VERY WELL!

Since this all about Ralf........... Well played Ralf and team, it is getting better each game, players are getting the system Ralf has employed and executing it much more effectively. He may be my favorite coach of all time. Why you say dat...many of the none Ralf fans cry out....because of the Man has a plan! A bloody playbook! A style that is exciting, brave, energetic and full of automism , I am learning Ralfy. He has employed the press better than any manager has, ( yes, better than Poch) but it took awhile, alot of triggers needed to be learned, pressing as a team, covering the spaces left by the pressure, etc. Ralf is so committed to his style he will not change his plans even when we are getting thumped, keep pressing, stretching, learn it as we loose, because we have to get it right! Tella's preseason interview confirmed that Ralf was drilling the press into them, so much that Tella thought we are much better at it and "any team that can defeat our press has done very well". I see it for myself, and it looks alot more solid, our defensive record is improving as we get better at the system. This is a very difficult system, even the master, Beliesa was shown how it is done! Ralf's passion to do better is infectious, he is totally living the game as it goes on. The recruiting since he has been here is excellent for the budget we have. Even the so called usless players (moi, redder, dj) are now being seen as good players, that is good coaching. Ralf may not be everyones cup of tea, but for me I would have no one else, a big man, big character, big ideas, big results and I big up my coach. Thank you for making Saints exciting again, win or loss, it is usually exciting ball. Ps. Found it very amusing watching Manu trying to press when they were loosing, not a CLUE! with the intro of Ronaldo this season, they will never be able to press a team effectively again. If it is a half hearted press it will fail and leave you more exposed. BIG UP THE TEAM, THEY ALL PLAYED VERY WELL!

Well played Ralf and team, it is getting better each game, players are getting the system Ralf has employed and executing it much more effectively. He may be my favorite coach of all time. Why you say dat...many of the none Ralf fans cry out....because of the Man has a plan! A bloody playbook! A style that is exciting, brave, energetic and full of automism , I am learning Ralfy. He has employed the press better than any manager has, ( yes, better than Poch) but it took awhile, alot of triggers needed to be learned, pressing as a team, covering the spaces left by the pressure, etc. Ralf is so committed to his style he will not change his plans even when we are getting thumped, keep pressing, stretching, learn it as we loose, because we have to get it right! Tella's preseason interview confirmed that Ralf was drilling the press into them, so much that Tella thought we are much better at it and "any team that can defeat our press has done very well". I see it for myself, and it looks alot more solid, our defensive record is improving as we get better at the system. This is a very difficult system, even the master, Beliesa was shown how it is done! Ralf's passion to do better is infectious, he is totally living the game as it goes on. The recruiting since he has been here is excellent for the budget we have. Even the so called usless players (moi, redder, dj) are now being seen as good players, that is good coaching. Ralf may not be everyones cup of tea, but for me I would have no one else, a big man, big character, big ideas, big results and I big up my coach. Thank you for making Saints exciting again, win or loss, it is usually exciting ball. Ps. Found it very amusing watching Manu trying to press when they were loosing, not a CLUE! with the intro of Ronaldo this season, they will never be able to press a team effectively again. If it is a half hearted press it will fail and leave you more exposed. BIG UP THE TEAM, THEY ALL PLAYED VERY WELL!

Looks like the helmet has come here , now ruining our forum..... please Mister....Can you vacate the premises.

He was one footed, coming in low, did not slide through the cheat on a stonking wet surface, he collapsed his legs, reduced momentum, and tried to pull out of tackle. Result.. just caught cheats ankle, dramatic head snap back and collapse in a dramatic heap, no medical needed, cheat just up and ran around. This was a poorly timed challenge, no malice, no follow through, no injury! A yellow card was sufficient, the obvious attempt to upgrade it to red was needed to change the game for the bigger team as we were holding our own. It was not going to the preconceived result, Chelsea had had some poor results and needed a pick me up, even the announcers cheered up after the sending off, they could now gush over Chelsea . We were a sacrificial Saint again to those clowns 🤡 called refs.

It is pretty obvious your IQ is not up to others who post. They are far more sensible in their logic and understanding of the game. I am happy you got to play the beautiful game to a decent level from what you say. That I respect! But your years of trying to dominate a topic, derailing with petty arguments, never admitted wrong doing is what destroys the good you have to contribute to the forum.

Are you in love with a Ref? Were you a ref? Because you do not see it the way most of us do. How about this, " the refs GENERALLY give the bigger teams the calls". I saw it all game during our match against 13 man Manshitty. Ref tried his hardest to win city that game, actually took that possible win from us with that atrocious pen call. Play on for every time we were hacked down, playing extra, EXTRA time because city had the ball and were attacking. Looking a thousand times at VAR to find something to make Sterlings goal stand. Yet out pen shout got short changed! If you can't see the ref bias against us and how many points they take from us over the seasons because of their terrible, actually criminal calls against us, then you are blind. Why they do it, I don't know? but the bullshit that they are all doing their best, unbiased referee of the game is laughable. LOOK AT THE HYPOCRITE CALLS! They are not incorruptible, infallible robots, they go out there with bias and favorites, and have been proven to be corruptible or petty with their decision making in all sports! Some sports have worked hard to eliminate these bias water blob decision makers with better, clearer rules, more transparency in their decisions making(mics) and use of tech better. Ruggers and Cricky are great examples. But noooooooo....our FA rewards the corrupt! Same cheaters every year dispite their obvious mistakes, we bring in VAR and more refs to make the right calls and they still fuck it up? Like blatant use of the tech to back up the refs decision, smh. It took a couple of years to neuter VAR to a point it doesn't overrule the refs. We don't get to hear the convo from the refs, so they still have complete anonymous control of the game. You use the cheating calls against CR7 as an example of no top 6 bias, but do you agree with the calls? I think he was fouled and a pen should have been given, but the ref had a bias against him and used that to try to change the result of the game, KARMA overruled the cheater ref. Do you not see that bias applied to the smaller clubs more frequently than the golden boys? Do you not see the things they get away with that we get punished for? 👀

Moussa oh Moussa don't worry about our fans opinions of your qualities. Our fans have such a bad reputation of writing off players because they lack the ability to see what a good player is. They ignore your accomplishments to get here, that pro scouts and coaches have seen you as a talent and committed to your future. I see ( and Ralf) your talent, desire and hunger to play ball, I see the off ball effort you make to get involved. You give my team everything you have got and I appreciate it and you. Please don't let the doubters bring you down. I will support you as I did when JWP, DIALLO, MOI or even Mane was deemed not good enough by our quick to wrongly judge fans. I saw the game reactions to NFC , do you speak to your family like that? This is our team/family! How can you shit all over your family and expect positive things? Tell your son when he is trying his best he is a useless cunt", really, is that how your inspire or help them to be better? Please read over that thread, when we went down 2-1, posters, supposedly Fans attacked our family with vile and contempt. What nasty bastards some of you are, when it gets tough, you shite all over your own family. I would never go to war with your lot.

Well, it is official, the new strategy is obviously "buy the best youth players we can get". We are targeting the best young up and coming youth players that the present clubs do not want to sell !! but the word is out, we have a coach that wants a team of young star players, and they will be given a chance, and they are actually coming here!! This is the key, they now want to come here! Excellent!! For around 5 mil we are able to get very tallented young men that can be ready for the step up to first team quite quickly, with their potential already discovered ( best of breed) we just have to continue to developed these future Stars. I love this strategy. It is the only sensible way for a club our size to improve our team qualities. We used to buy around the 15mill player already seasoned and ready to go into first team, but it had gotten harder and harder to find the really good players at that bracket, now many average players are asking that fee, and we got screwed with quite a few dross that were not worth the contracts and then hampers us financially. So we leave the over inflated established player market as it get more difficult to get a star at our price levels, and tap up the best of the teenager star market, Brilliant 👏. 4 players with huge potential vs one 20mill established player that could be an expensive flop is far more sensible to me. I am really excited for our club, the new super kids coming in give me great hope we are still heading in the right direction just doing it differently, smarter, and more in line with what Ralf wants. Players who will run their ass off implementing one of the hardest systems to master. If Ralf and playbook can stick around long enough to see this come to fruition, we may well be mixing it up with the big teams. I hope he does.

Fucking get in there !!!! DID NOT DESERVE TO LOSE THAT!

Well said! Some pragmatism there. If people would erase their early opinions on him and just keep an open mind on his ability, his stats on loan and his return are good enough to be excited about. Is this not what we wanted? A player many, very many have written off as not good enough, goes out on loan, does well, gets valuable experience CL/EL, and come back and is performing well in training. Ralf tells you he is doing well, and then he show it against weaker opposition, yet we still want to stick to the old mantra.......... By the stats of that game, he was the best of our bunch! Give the guy a break, he is a SAINTS player, one of ours! He is trying his best, so let's give him some fuxking support!