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Gallons of calamine lotion stopped our daughter from scratching. And warm baths...

This is very true. Sad, but true And no, I don't condone the enormous wages that footballers earn. It is completely out of control, and is the largest contributing factor to footballer's celebrity culture.

I can only rely on what he has stated, but who am I to argue against such brilliance :smt102

OK Fine!! You stated that you condemn the celebrity culture. You also stated that you condone what Goody is doing by using that very celebrity culture to earn money. If you honestly thought that the whole celebrity culture was a reprehensible thing, then you would not be able to condone someone [anyone, not just Goody], making money from it. There is contradiction there, you just don't want to see it!

I can see I'm gonna have to get Mr John Smith over here to point out the error of your ways :shock:

Wowsers they must be popular

I really have no clue. I don't follow the life and loves of Goody that closely! I'm sure one of the people who think it is heartless to be derogatory about her will enlighten us, since they have such a close relationship with the woman.

I'll happily continue arguing the point with you, but guarantee the thread will be locked by the mods then

Then you would be a hypocrite. Jeeesh, even stevo would be able to keep up with this one http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite

He is apparently the biological father of both kids.

I'm not sure I understand any of that, especially the Lowe Out bit!!! Are you suggesting that law abiding citizens are hypocrites?

Nope. But since we're never likely to agree I'm leaving it there

OK. Try this one... What if - and it is only a what if before stevo and Ponty get all mounted up!! - Jeff Brazier 'convinced' Goody that she should do the TV shows to provide for HIM [firstly him], and also the kids... Would you still think what she is doing is commendable?

Whatever your views, we will NEVER know the answer to that one!! But it certainly adds a further dynamic to the debate.

I'm sure he will! That man is another parasite that the celebrity culture has spawned. I wonder if he will be donating his 'fees' to the kids' trust funds?

Is she using them, or are they using her?

Then you sir, are a hypocrite

I do enjoy your ripostes. Always so well thought out and generally only include the one insult. If you're not capable of joining in the debate without resorting to insults, it's probably best to just leave it alone

You can either endorse the daft celebrity culture - big brother, and plastic celebs like Paris Hilton - or not. You can't say that the celebrity culture is pointless and condemn it and yet on the other hand support Goody for exploiting it and making money from it. It just doesn't make sense. Is that so difficult to understand?

If you're so short sighted that you can't see that endorsing her actions and therefore endorsing the celebrity culture that brought about those actions in the first place are not intrinsically linked, then more fool you!

I'm assuming that's directed at Scott, despite quoting my post...

Try it and see.

If only Carlsberg.... No, let's not go there

Seriously, would you care to explain why they are 'heartless'?

And also you that determines whether everyone else is successful too by the look of it.