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Everywhere we go Everywhere we go It's Southampton spies, making Boro cry Everywhere we go

To the tune of Adams Family: We're spying on your mother We're spying on your brother We spied on all the others Tonda's red army

FFS. This might be the worst post I've ever seen on here. This touched more lives because people couldn't attend a football match? Yeah that's much worse than a smaller number of children being sexually abused you utter dinlo.

The points deduction isn't getting dropped now. Those proceedings are over.

Not sure how anyone can read that statement and think we might take legal action. Seems pretty clear to me that we're wanting to draw a line under it and move on.

Sorry but I don't care how much he loves the club or how committed he is. Absolutely miles out of his depth and his position is untenable. Can we have a poll?

If you heard about another football club you'd barely believe that they could genuinely handle it that badly. When its Sport Republic's Southampton though it's incredibly believable and not at all surprising.

Laughable that they're essentially owning up to not bothering with their own due diligence at the time.

The problem is the EFL clearly don't think it's a stupid rule and neither do the clubs who wanted it in the first place. If it's a widespread belief that it's a stupid rule then it'll get binned this Summer...

If clubs want rid then it'll go, if they don't it'll stay. Not sure why this incident will changed the mind of clubs who wanted it in the first place though.

Does anyone remember that 'silver goal' rubbish they tried out? If a team was winning at HT in ET then the game ended there.

Could probably speed it up by removing two players from each team every 5-10 minutes until you end up with 5 a side. Not entirely serious but do think it'd become harder to not concede in that situation.

Who's paying for it for the likes of Crawley Town and Gillingham?

Well a majority of EFL clubs were clearly happy with the 72 hour window when it came in.

I know it doesn't. My point is Arsenal publicising a single training session doesn't mean they'd be happy for the world to see all of their training sessions. Yes they brought it in after Biesla as EFL clubs thought it was a big enough issue to have its own. If they didn't it wouldn't have come in.

I didn't think I needed to be when we were specifically discussing the EFL and your assertion they'd dug a hole for themselves. I thought it was pretty obvious I was discussing sanctions the EFL would implement in their competitions. Why would I dispute a point about the EFL by talking about a competition they don't run?

Wanker might have been one of the nicer things we called him.

I don't get the comparison to the Arsenal thing at all tbh. If you're doing an open session you're evidently not working on anything tactical. Otherwise why not stream every training session? It is weird that it's not a rule elsewhere but enough EFL clubs wanted for it to be brought in so they obviously felt that was an advantage to be gained.

I'm not going to pretend I've gone and looked at every instance because I haven't and have no inclination too. My memory suggests though that it's a pretty standard way of doing things when a team is kicked out and I'm struggling to recall a situation where that hasn't happened. Re the 2 leg stuff they really should have done is postpone the second leg to give time to deal with it, that way they would have options on sporting sanctions for the first leg which didn't affect the second, giving us the opportunity to make it up in that game. As the bias stuff I highly doubt that the mush who played a single game for them in the 90s was biased. I agree though that you'd think they'd want to avoid even the suggestion and Saints should have challenged it, if only to delay things.

When clubs are kicked out of knockout competitions don't the team they beat always progress? Agree about the rule not coming with a punishment when written. Lots of football rules are like that unfortunately.

The FA Cup is nothing to do with the EFL though? We were talking about the EFL.

Which simplifies things for them and everyone else going forward. If you do it in a knockout competition you get kicked out, if a league game then 3 point deduction.

Why have the EFL dug themselves a very deep hole?

Yeah I think him going on holiday this week makes me even more convinced he needs to go.

Technically the first leg was paid to Boro too. Do away teams get any percentage of gate money in play off games? Either way, people paid for two football matches and attended them. No chance any sort of refund is coming for those.