Farmer Saint

Unless the question is "Which 1 Manager could actually be worse to have in charge than Russell Martin?"

Odd, I though we pretty much played the following when we didn't have the ball? KWP - Beds - THB - Manning Smallbone - Downes Armstrong - Aribo - Fraser Adams

Are you high?

At least it couldn't get any worse eh?

Didn't we play that under Martin last season though? And we conceded 60+ goals in the Championship with the same defenders.

We scored 87 goals last season (5 less than Ipswich in top) with the largest number of created chances and second best XG, in a league we were expected to dominate. Stop talking rubbish - he'll probably do very well at Rangers.

We approached both in October, and both said "F off, not interested".

Which PL manager? We're all ears.

Yep, did it a lot in our relegation season. This season I've done it a few times, but the odds are so bad as the bookies reckon we'll lose even when we go ahead.

Definitely, yes, may have made us competitive with Ipswich and Leicester if we had. To stay up though we are nowhere near. 6 to 8 players, probably £25-30m each and we may have been close. But if we only had 6 that would still leave us very short in some areas.

But we also knew we couldn't spend big due to PSR...

I'm surprised we've seen 5 wins considering the players over that span. And I got criticised for saying I didn't really want promotion last season as we weren't ready 🤣🤣🤣

But I'm sure the usual suspects on here will offer some...

Interested to know where we are as a fanbase. For me it's 75% the players, but I've made that clear since the Summer. What do YOU think?

At what point is everyone going to come round to - maybe it's not the Manager..?

None of them were coming here previously either. Anyone that is any good can look at this team and know they have absolutely no chance - which they did.

Really? If they do they don't understand football. Entitled to their opinions of course, but so are a lot of clueless people.

I don't think many Saints fans would argue that Stephens and Bednarek are the best in any division - and I don't think KWP is any good defensively either.

Check those facts then - prove me wrong. My guess is you won't, as you can't.

But then you can't blame RM for it either then...

And this is what I've been saying for the god knows how long. Our defence is dog shite, has been for years. This is due to player recruitment and coaching. It has spanned 8 managers.

You'd imagine the second manager would do better though, wouldn't you? New Managers tend to do better initially, rather than ones getting towards the end of their tenure.

No, results like that can help to pick up teams. It should have been 12, and we should have been in our Honeymoon period. The fact is we haven't conceded less than 60 in a season since the 2017/2018 season.

TBF, we have conceded more per game with Juric as Manager...but luckily as you said a number of times, it can't get any worse!! And as I said, it can when SR are picking managers.

0-5 against the worst away team in the League...that's worse.