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I think that may be a little harsh - he looks weaker than I think he actually is because he looks like he's undergoing chemo. I think he just not quite good enough, and there is no crime in that. We're trying to get Championship players to be PL and that just doesn't work.

I think the quality of our CBs is more to do with that than anything else.

Tbh, I think we need to give the new setup a chance - they need a good 12 to 18 months before we can really judge them.

£65k PW I believe.

There is a thread for that, this isn't it. Please keep on topic about how much you want this manager out and consider setting up a dynamic and popular hashtag (along with mocking up a picture of Juric, with the hilarious hashtag on it) to bring it about 🤣🤣🤣 What a plonker.

About as good as your opinions. #alexlaw76o

We won last week.

#jurico And you thought Martin was bad...

This.

We finished 15th on 43 points, with a much better team than we have now.

I doubt it, not with our spending back then.

Absolutely - not sure anyone has said differently. How did we get on after we got to the top of the League though?

Sorry, didn't realise on a forum I needed to put IMO on a post about a hypothetical situation, but I will just for your benefit.

And yet the same Manager struggled with those same players the following season.

We're not scoring enough with Aribo, Dibling and Sule behind a new striker, and we're conceding too many with Bednarek in a back 4. In my opinion.

TBF a lot of said this when Martin was sacked - the players bloody love him, however limited he is.

And you can't back yourself...

We're not staying up with that though, and that's more than we had to spend (especially taking into account the much higher wages we'd have paid for PL players rather than Championship ones).

Assuming @The Kraken can't back himself, again...pussy.

But the point is the £100m or so would have been spent, so you can't have the Fernandes couple. But yes, forgot about Edozie, and Baz has been injured for half the season. Either way, £100m doesn't touch the sides when we have a squad as poor as ours was when we got promoted. We needed to spend circa £200m, and get all the transfers spot on (so none of that on THB or Downes) to give ourselves a chance.

Ok, let's remove everyone we bought this summer and buy 4 x £25m players. Here is your squad to add to, which positions would you buy and what formation/team would you play? Macca, Lumley KWP, Bedders, Manning, Bree, Stephens Aribo, Sulemana, Smallbone, Charles, Edozie, Dibling (even though we didn't know he was going to play his way into the side) Onuachu, Stewart, Armstrong

We HAD to buy THB - it was contractual. If we hadn't have bought Downes people would have hit the roof as he was our best player last season. But yes, let's take Archer out, keep Ramsdale as Macca isn't even a Champ level keeper, and give ourselves £40m to spend on what, 2 players? We would have been left with: Ramsdale, Macca, Lumley KWP, Bedders, THB, Manning, Bree, Stephens Aribo, Downes, Sulemana, Smallbone, Charles, Edozie, Dibling (even though we didn't know he was going to play his way into the side) Onuachu, Stewart, Armstrong That's 19 players, 1 short of a PL squad. Add your two £20m players and, yeah, you're right, that screams Premier League to me.

But £57m of that was to go into the season with a worse squad than last year (THB, Downes and Archer to replace THB, Downes, Adams and Armstrong). So in reality we probably spent about £50m on players to fill out a squad that was very light on depth (hence why that £50m went on so many bang average players).

Absolutely not, but that's one more Premier League player in reality, if we get it right.

Of course it's not all the players, but I think a lot of it is, and certainly going into the season with one, maybe two PL level players is negligent, but then we didn't really have the money to do anything better.