Farmer Saint

So obviously this has been something that has been debated over and over through the season, but I wanted to outline the spend between promoted clubs over the years. As we know, PSR is a funny fucker, where transfers are charged over the length of the contract, but sales are counted in full against that year. Salary increases are obviously counted against that years accounts. Below is an outline of the last 9 promoted clubs, and their PSR Spend for the promoted year. Transfer fees are taken from Transfermarket and wages from Capology: Southampton 24/25: Transfer spend: £25m Wage increase: £7m Transfer Income: £35m Total: £3m profit Leicester 24/25: Transfer spend: £19m Wage increase: £6m Transfer Income: £40m Total: £15m profit Ipswich 24/25: Transfer spend: £32m Wage increase: £20m Transfer Income: £2m Total: £50m spend Burnley 23/24: Transfer spend: £23.5m Wage increase: £12m Transfer Income: £3m Total: £32.5m spend Sheff Utd 23/24: Transfer spend: £23.5m Wage increase: £12m Transfer Income: £3m Total: £32.5m spend Luton 23/24: Transfer spend: £5.5m Wage increase: £17m Transfer Income: £0.3m Total: £22.2m spend Fulham 22/23: Transfer spend: £16m Wage increase: £20m Transfer Income: £21.5m Total: £14.5m spend Bournemouth 22/23: Transfer spend: £17.5m Wage increase: £13.5m Transfer Income: £0m Total: £31m spend Forest 22/23: Transfer spend: £42m Wage increase: £54m Transfer Income: £4m Total: £92m spend And just for comparison purposes, here is our spend from our relegation season: Saints 22/23: Transfer spend: £32.5m Wage increase: £3.5m Transfer Income: £4.5m Total: £31.5m spend As we've known this season we have PSR issues (alongside Leicester), but it's interesting to see the spends that took place over the years (and just look at Forest!!!).

2 out of 2 there Weston. Look, I gave you a month to detox from me, to try to get me out of your head, but it seems like you just can't get over me.

Both, but I don't think the players are good enough to defend better, so really we need to keep the ball away from the opposition more.

First post in a month, and look who shows up within 2 minutes. Obsessed

There was a good reason why I said last year we don't want to get promoted this season - PSR headroom wouldn't allow us to upgrade our team enough, and as we saw in the Championship even with Downes and THB our team couldn't defend - how were they ever going to do a job in the PL? To try to counter this we went 5 at the back to give us that extra player to defend with as we would have had no chance playing a 4, but has meant that our midfield has been overrun. At least people are now seeing that our defence being utter shite is not Manager dependent as Juric is struggling with the quality of players we have. One of our biggest problems now is the opposition has the ball too much and can cut through our poor defence time after time. We need to keep possession better to keep it away from the opposition.

Just anyone should. Shame he wasn't in New Orleans over Xmas.

#jurico

I think this was worse tbh, especially taking into consideration that Brentford were worse away from home than we are.

Why do you take such pleasure in this? You've been one of the most vocal people for removing Martin since last year, and now you're posting with glee about us losing after replacing him. I think the question "are you Pompey in disguise?" is a pertinent one for you.

Absolutely, not absolving Martin of anything on this, but numerous posters deciding this is all on Martin is disingenuous and incorrect.

This.

They did have better players though...

Yup, I wouldn't bet against him being worse...

That last statement shows everything you need to know, and nearly half those games weren't this season. This shows that the issue is way deeper than the Manager.

Why do you think I'm supporting Martin? I'm just saying the grass isn't always greener. Nearly everyone on here thought anyone could do a better job. It turns out that may not be true, but to keep blaming this on Martin once he's gone is just too convenient. Wolves had a massive bounce in results. Is that due to Gary O'Neil? No, course not. A good Manager can turn a team around irrelevant of who came before. The issue is we haven't upgraded our Manager. This is on SR.

It's a 10 year plan, and the club knew that. We'll be pretty rosy next season due to this.

Yeah, let's see.

I must have missed the Juric win... I'm not saying Martin is good, but we have a Championship team. It's a hard league and we've recruited the majority of players for next season.

Look, I get it. We had everyone saying it can't get any worse than Martin. Now it's looking like it might have got worse, we've got to blame it all on Martin. I get it, it's saving face. It's like the Brexiteers blaming COVID for the shit show that is 4 years post leaving. I understand.

Nope, not saying it was acceptable. Don't have a problem with him telling the players how much he loved them though. Happens all the time in the NFL and they're not soft.

Saturday was worse than anything I've seen from Saints, period.

Again, never said it was - point was for the Chelsea and Spurs game was that we'd moved away from keeping possession for the sake of it.

I didn't? My point was it has happened more since we moved away from a possession based style.

Instead of 2's or 3's it feels like it's more 5's now. Either way I think we looked worse defensively on Saturday than any other game this season. And it was against the worst away team in the League...