Farmer Saint

But that's not the question I asked - so if we go back to the original options which would you prefer?

It's not a wishlist, it's what is happening at the moment. It's one of the two.

Just out of interest, if our choice is Rasmus appointing a new Manager, or Martin staying in place, what would people prefer to do? The discussions I've had over the past few days have led to me feeling very depressed about who we can bring in to replace Martin, but I also feel he needs to go as the fans have turned on him and there is no way back now I feel.

Absolutely it is, Ipswich are a good example of this, but ultimately they have a manager who seems to be rather good (although they're still not exactly doing well - a whole 4 points and 1 of them was extremely lucky against us). I don't think we have the opportunity to bring someone in of the quality of McKenna, so not sure what chance we really have.

Exactly this - our fans seem to massively overrate our team and I don't understand why - perhaps it is as a justification for how shit they think Martin is. Martin is a Championship Manager, but our team is also a Championship team.

Well, as I said my mate said that's the perception when I was asking about certain information on Managers in the UK market and that was his opinion. True that is probably not universal, but if that's the opinions he's heard in his world that's not a positive thing.

That doesn't seem to be the opinion outside of the club - the above was paraphrased (apart from the word "sully") from a mate who's an agent.

Corberan won't be interested until the end of the season of until WBA are out of the promotion hunt, he's bought into that project.

A good manager who wants to manage us I would guess.

Because our team isn't good enough for the Prem and he wouldn't want to "sully" his reputation as its very unlikely he'd keep us up.

Agree he needs to be sacked, but that's only half the job. Who's going to come in? Moyes and Potter are out of reach so we need to be doing some proper due diligence on who comes in.

Why?

I'm not painting him as someone who had done nothing - just more that he had not done a great deal - Cup are in general a lottery, and I wouldn't look for a Manager just because he got to a promotion and to a Cup Semi-Final twice in another country. La Liga is an odd League where outside of the top 5 or 6 all the teams are utter jank. Sorry about the Primera Liga, been reading up on the Santa Clara Manager Vasco Matos.

I think probably due to potential. We're a provincial club without the ability to grow - the attraction of a Bournemouth or previously a Brighton was that it was a low cost, small stadium club with a large catchment. We're never going to be able to get 50k fans so we're nearly at our ceiling already. Therefore we are purely a cash cow, but you can only be a cash cow if we stay up year after year which no-one will invest the money in to guarantee. We got lucky with the Liebherr/Cortese axis.

I never said he doesn't need to go - I'm asking you what would have made you pick Iraola? I'm guessing you've backed yourself into a corner and can't tell me. Or would you just throw a dart at the Primera Liga table and see what happens?

Yeah - he needs to clear ship. Ankersen has shown nothing. I also believe that SR were potentially looking to offload us in the Summer and invest elsewhere...don't know if that's still on the cards.

Right, so I think we've exhausted the fun we can have with Josef Fritzl here, let's get back to discussing RM.

Jeez, you're making this thread awkward.

No, more that they were intended for military fixtures rather than civilians, and they expected a number to get through, which they seemed to. Hence why we saw little in the way of casualties. This was not Iran posturing, this was Iran wanting to do damage, and wanting to show that even Israel's defences can be breached.

I don't think there are good and bad guys here. I think there's bad guys and badder guys.

But the point is "most". If they'd have fired them at the centre of Tel Aviv and the Israeli defences had missed them then we'd be looking at far different escalations.

Points to them looking at military installations then as otherwise we'd have seen some casualties for the missiles that weren't caught by Arrow.

But what had he done in his career? He was an out of contract manager who'd managed in Cyprus, and then got promotion to the Premera Liga. Seems like a lucky punt to me.

Perhaps the lack of deaths was due to the Iranians looking to bomb military fixtures rather than Israel's tactics of bombing innocent civilians?

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