Verbal Kint

There are only 2 grounds in the league where there is anything resembling an atmosphere. Palace and Leicester. And even then it's hardly every game, and a lot of supporters wouldn't want that type of atmosphere anyway. Every other ground in the league is absolutely shocking week in week out

You already know it won't be. Premier League support just isn't like that anymore, unless you want Palace style ultras or give everyone a clapper? Even for Cup games the atmospheres are awful

Are we really saying the players can't play 2 games in 4 days?

Loris, walker, Toby, vvd, Bertrand, Clasie, alli, mane, eriksen, Tadic/dembele/son, Kane Wanyama wouldn't get in Spurs team frankly. He's been awful. No touch, crap passing that never goes forwards and at times yesterday he just stopped trying. We were offered a chance in the summer to flog him for decent money and we should have taken it. We'll be luck to get 8 million for him next summer. We need a complete rethink of our midfield next summer to build around Clasie. Wanyama will go and JWP and Reed are never likely to be good enough.

Serious questions need to be asked about who was responsible for the signing of Martina. If he's not good enough to be ahead of Yoshida playing out of position then he is a completely pointless signing

Koeman frustrates the hell out of me. City are a very very good side and they showed at times today how good they are in the final third, but under Pellegrini they have always been suspect defensively, and without Hart and Kompany we really could have gone there and had a go at them. Instead our manager put the most defensive team out he possibly could. A CB playing at right back, no midfielder in the team capable or willing to pass forwards and our most creative player this season left on the bench. We lost the game in the first 20 minutes because the players heads were all over the place, because the mindset is totally determined by the team selection. As a result we sat back and invited them onto us, and then individual errors start creeping in. If Cedric is fit he should start (how will he get better defensively unless he gets tested) If Mane is fit he should start (I didn't see nay other teams resting key players last weekend after the international break) If Tadic is fit he should start (him and Gaston are our ONLY creative players) If Clasie is fit he should start (been one of the better players recently, we paid a lot for him, and he won't get match fitness unless he plays) I can obviously cope with losing away to City or at home to United, or even Stoke, but not in the manner that we do when we routinely give them the momentum and advantage from the second the team sheet is handed in. Well played Tadic and Long in particular who showed he IS capable if given chances to play up front. Let's use him more often in that position when Pelle isn't firing. Wanyama was abysmal. Horrendous control on multiple occasions and can't pass for toffee. Drop him for now and give Romeu/Reed chances to stake their claim for that role, because we know Wanyama is off soon anyway

Because we have the most negative manager in the league

Wanyama has been a disgrace today

They aren't average but thye have defensive injuries and yet Koeman has put out the most defensive team possible. A CB at right back, the only midfielder capable of passing forwards is dropped and the only creative player we have is dropped. I'm not surprised we put in horrible performances when the mentality is so ****ing negative

It's pathetic isn't it? totally pathetic from Koeman

Berbatov left. Carrick left. Modric left. Bale left. Kane, Toby, Alli will all be playing for bigger clubs in the next few years if they carry on going as they are

I don't think we'll get smashed. We're very dull to watch most of the time, but we're nearly always well organised and hard to beat

We paid far too much for him but I'm not going to slate him when he's consistently played out of position. He's not a wide player and never has been but because he's quick we thought we'd convert him into one. A stupid idea and I hope he plays well next week when played up front to prove the point. He should be being used as a totally different option to Pelle up front (which should have been used a lot more than it has been) but Rk is too boring to change from his usual tactical set up

I'm looking forward to seeing Long playing in his proper position next week, against a team who play a high line as well. It was bad enough spending so much on him, but to have continuously misused him since has compounded it. Him and Mane will cause City problems I'm sure, just as they did at Chelsea last season when we played some of the best football we have under RK RK is so inflexible it's tedious sometimes. If Stoke are able to play a 3 of Bojan, Arnautovic and Shaqiri (all of whom would be considered 'luxury' players by Koeman) is it really that much to ask for us to play a slightly more creative team from the start when we're at home to mid-table sides?

I have no idea what the loyalty stat shows. There have been many, many instances of people doing horrific things "for their country" so I don't see any relevance to it at all. The 93% stat is more encouraging I agree. I would actually be prepared to ignore the 27% statistic about British Muslims having 'sympathy' with the terrorist attack on CH (68% disagreed with that and the rest either refused to answer or weren't sure) as 'sympathy' feels like a very broad word to use and could cover any number of emotions. But 11% think organisations that display pictures of the Prophet DESERVE to be attacked. That is very clear cut. I have never, and would never, make stupid statements like 'all Muslims pose a threat', as that is clearly nonsense, but 11% is a fairly big minority in my opinion, particularly if you were prepared to extrapolate it to real numbers. If you don't agree it's a worryingly large percentage then fair enough, but I think most people would disagree with you

Neither of those figures are anywhere near close to being high enough I'm afraid, even if they are the majority. I'm genuinely interested in what you would think the results would be if British Christians had been polled after Jesus had been mocked and a similar attack had occurred? As both religions are as violent and bad as each other presumably you think the figures would be roughly the same?

After the Charlie Hebdo attack, a study found that 27% of British Muslims 'sympathised' with the terrorists and 10% believed it was right that the cartoonists were attacked. I don't claim to know a lot about Islam, but surely there is something seriously wrong with a religion that can produce such staggering statistics like that? If that attack had been carried out because Charlie Hebdo had poked fun at Jesus instead, would the number of British Christians polled have produced similar numbers?

Total nonsense

You genuinely think Forster is no better than League One standard? That is obviously nonsense. For what it's worth I also think Stekelenburg is a better keeper at the moment, but the potential in Forster is huge

Yoshida out of position, Tadic out of position, Mane out of position. Pathetic from Koeman

It doesn't matter who we're playing. It only takes one set piece, a free kick (they had a few in very dangerous positions), a mistake (like a dodgy back pass maybe like against United), a crap refereeing decision to give them a penalty (villa midweek) and suddenly it's very much game on. Score the third, kill the game and then sit back and let them play their propaganda football. Don't do it at 2 nil when they're still in the game

It's not saying much is it? His passing was abysmal when he first came, it's now just very average. You couldn't trust him to play a pass more than 20 yards and it would have to be sideways or backwards. He's a monster of a man, but technically he's very very average, and that's why very few teams above us want him. Morgan is miles ahead of him as a player.but even he moves the ball too slowly at times and gets criticised by a lot of United fans for that reason

The problem is that if we don't get midfielders in the team who can actually pass the ball properly and forwards, which I think Clasie can do but Wanyama plainly can't, we will never progress as a side. We had two of the best defensive enforcers in the league last year as a partnership and whilst we were fantastic defensively there were a lot of games where we just moved the ball too slowly in midfield. If we want to improve then we will need to sell Wanyama and try and find another midfielder who has more ability on the ball than him. There's a reason why none of the clubs above us (except Spurs but very little in it last year) have any interest in signing him

He's been proven horribly wrong about Tadic so will have to find another player to dismiss as being useless

First half we were able to play high up the pitch and as a result dominated the game and played very well. Once King came on our back 4 dropped deeper and it was a role reversal as their back 4 pushed up and we had no outlet ball. A Long or a Rodriguez coming on for Pelle to run the channels and push them back would have helped us massively, although even if they had been fit I doubt RK would ever use that option. Pelle was fantastic in the first half but won nothing in the second. B'mouth played some nice football without creating chances. They don't just need a goal scorer, they need players who will create chances