Ken Tone

Oh, you mean with sophisticated surveillance equipment? 😉

Quite. Must have been taken from fairly close to be that quality. Surely he'd have seen he was being photographed, and reacted. Not just stood there holding his phone up.

I suspect the Boro response to you would be to say that they should be awarded the first game as a 3-0 win, thereby winning the tie overall as a 4-2 aggregate..... resulting in us being effectively chucked out. And that would set a 3-0 precedent for future ordinary league games. However that would also be a potential legal minefield because if we'd known before the second leg that we were 3-0 down, we'd have played differently in the second, taking risks and going hell for leather to score 4. Awarding it as a 3-0 win *after* the second leg disadvantages us unreasonaby. So we could use that in an appeal. All round the EFL have really cocked things up by setting a rule without setting a standard punishment for breaking it.

Surely there is no way we could be kicked out? It's clearly too late to do anything before Wembley, given the decision won't be for a while AND we'd have the right to appeal. If there was any attempt to award the game to Hull afterwards, Boro could argue that they might have beaten them in the final and demand a new game. Chaos Surely the most likely outcome is a fine plus at worst something like a points deduction next season (or next time in championship) with maybe a suspension for someone on the backroom staff.

Think that was Zippy.

Clearly we just need to employ the same lawyers as Man City.

Do we know the kick off time yet?

Yes I think he is But the Guardian isn't a Labour paper. Traditionally it's Liberal.

What strikes me is that we clearly didn't gain anything from any information gained. We played our usual team, in our usual formation...... no changes to counteract any tactic or formation of theirs. About the only potentially useful thing we might have learnt was that Hackney(?) wasn't fit. If he had been, maybe we'd have detailed someone to man mark him.... maybe

Step 4 , call people from Teeside Geordies. They hate that nearly as much as people from Sunderland.

It's not even for an upgrade that I want promotion now it looks close. I really don't fancy the PL. Far fewer games for a start, and constantly messed about by TV and other clubs' european games. Plus bloody VAR. But it's more that if we don't go up, we'll probably lose some of our best players. And gradually go into decline to become a mid-table so-so club. What's better .... a so-so championship club or a yo-yo PL/championship one? 😒

And his near-miss bicycle kick was bloody impressive too.

Lived in Manchester for a while many years ago. In those days , with city very much second best to united , their fans were genuine fans and nearly all local. Whereas at old Trafford you could see lots of ' home' fans coaches from Surrey etc. In the early days of their success I was actually quite pleased for the long-suffering city fans I used to work with. But nowadays they're swamped by the plastics. Summed up by the couple in city colours who came in on our tube carriage from where they lived in Central London, who I suspect had never been to Manchester.

As long as we beat Ipswich, we'll be above Middlesbrough on goal difference or goals scored, so it's very slightly better than that. If we then beat Preston, either Ipswich or Millwall need to win, or 'Boro need not just to win, but to win by by more than we do ...... I think! 😉

Wearing my Friends Provident yellow shirt from the 2003 Cardiff final. Normally only wear for finals 😉 but making an exception today.

Body paint? 😉

Seems it's a good job I didn't buy one then! 🙂

Looked yellow to me tbh. Sure it's not you that's colour blind? 😉 The club has really missed out on sales of yellow stuff. The shop near the footbridge sold out of adult shirts some time ago. It's a shame that so many of us are giving money to other, dodgy, sellers.

Don't think you'll be alone mush 😉

Happened to me. I did panic! 🫣

I was similar Eventually got to zero then the bloody thing threw me out and I've had to start again. Now 2000+ again! 😡🤬

Neuter! Bit harsh, even if he is dirty sod 😉

Depends how interested they are in sailing ship terminology. 😉 Got sod all to do with football as far as someone brought up in the 1960s is concerned .

I don't normally complain about refs (apart from during the match!) but he was a shocker. Totally inconsistent. Warned some players, booked others, was fussy about some things but not others. Came across as someone who wanted to impose an authority he just hadn't got.

Someone please remind me what the loan deal actually was. I recall there was a supposed fee of 8 million euros mentioned when he signed, but I'm not clear whether we have a straightforward option to buy, or whether Bayern can just take him back and start bargaining , or ......?