BarberSaint

He's gone. Just not quite yet far enough. CBA to look, but would be interesting to see if there are still threads on him on the MKD and Swansea forums. If there are, he'll be over the moon to have made such a lasting impression.

Didn't like his bringing on Fraser; thought it was too negative and should have left Fellows on who was doing alright. Could have brought Robinson on earlier too. Overall thought we should have nicked it. Really need a central striker. Let's hope Stewart can improve upon his Bambi on Ice impersonation.

Probably already did a long while ago.

Isn't that part of the reason why they introduced the rule in the first place? To stop goal-hanging?

They only had ten mins to go though. Over half an hour maybe, but ten mins against ten men. Their manager would have to be a PE teacher to fuck that up.

The misspelling was boviously deliberat.

We have to keep him for now and I'd be tempted to see how he gets on. Upper third and let's see what next year brings. I would, however, never again play Stephens, Baz, THB or Manning unless we couldn't sign on the tea lady or use a traffic cone. Much as I'm not his greatest fan I'd put Aribo in instead of Fraser: he's far better even if he's slow. Fraser should be binned. Also not as enamoured as most about Robinson but I agree he brings energy, desire, makes things happen and needs to play to develop so I'd drop Azaz for now. And he needs to learn how to make substitutions properly.

His highlights and analysis of him showed that: he was essentially a third-rate target man, bringing others into the game. We overpaid for him. Same with Quarshie if you watched him: crap on the ball (which is why I said he'd never make the step up to the league above).

"Look at me" (aka bullshit). Suggest ignore those posts from him and just concentrate on the good ones.

First corner to them and Murphy spent ages. Putting the ball down, standing around, picking up the vape thingy that had been thrown near him and giving it to the ref and strolling back and looking up and ... this was about 5-10 mins in and he should have been booked as it was obvious he was time wasting. Good player to be fair though; knows what to do but wouldn't be good enough in the league above. As for Leo, yes it was the case that he did want to collect free kicks but I think he wanted to unsettle the defender as well. If he kept drawing them, the defender got on a yellow, etc it would mean he might have a bit more leeway to do things; it was quite clever but it was also late in the game so slowing things down like that might not have been counter productive. I imagine he was also pissed off at the stupid dive the defender did to get a free kick off him - put both his feet together and then just jumped and pulled his feet back - and was aware that he wasn't being given any space to turn or possibly even move inside. So I agree he'll be fun to watch, haven't seen/read anything from any journos about him but can see both points about his value. For me, the main thing was that there was little time to go and we wanted us to get to the bye-line and put in low, hard, dangerous crosses. I think he didn't want to just get the ball and recycle it.

I think there's always a market for snake oil.

• Flexible Formations: Instead of fixed shapes, teams use hybrid systems and formations that can shift during a match to adapt to the different phases of play. You mean like in every game of football where it's continuously adapting like, er, cause, um, that's actually how the game is played?

Baz - 5. Did ok with what he had to do. Mads - 4. Struggled against Murphy. Wouldn't like to see him against a good player in the league above. Manning -4. Too slow on the ball. Needs to be dropped. THB - 5. Nondescript. You saw how slow he is a couple of times. Needs to stop playing keep ball for no reason. Stephens - 5. At least he didn't get sent off which I thought he would. Downes - 3. Drop him and sell him. Charles - 5. Was ok. Not very good at doing anything with the ball but that might have been lack of movement around him. Fellowes - 5. No support really and his running was mediocre: head down and he's not very solid/strong. Azaz - 4. Looks a bit slow. Did drop into space but not sure if he ever let anyone know about it or was it just us failing to spot runs again. Fraser - 4. Works hard. Slow, no skill, not good enough. Drop him for Robinson. Archer - 5. Occasionally did a little something but for some reason passed when he could have shot and scored (2nd half). Subs. Armstrong. 3. Armstrong. Enough said. Stewart 3. Has very little strength or presence and doesn't strike me as a goalscorer. Perhaps better to leave judging him to the end of the year given his injury record, however. Robinson 5. Did more in a few minutes than some (Downes) did pretty much all game. Pushing to be a regular starter. Scienza. 4 Not really on long enough. Likes to roll around with every tackle. Probably has some skill and will look to do things. Could be good. Jander. 5. Could actually be the intelligent, ball-playing midfielder we've needed for quite a while. Promising and looks to get on with it. As everyone's said, a turgid, bitty first half followed by a little better second half but we look toothless, uninventive and a bit shit.

Very very poor so far. Shame, as I thought he'd be good. I think they'll keep him though as it might come good next season and we'll have had a bit more of a clear-out. I don't see us anywhere near the play-offs from what I've seen and there aren't actually any good teams I've seen either.

Somebody got it at last.

Bazinga sets himself up. Legs apart. Static. Waiting for a shot, just like me might in training. And waits and then reacts and dives from that fixed position. Just like in training. He doesn't move or act like a natural goalkeeper, just like an athlete put in goal which is what he is. Doesn't move his feet, just waits and reacts. Get rid.

A shy, reserved lad in the bustling metropolis of Liverpool with all those outgoing northerners around him and him earning more per week than they do a year. He'll be back next week.

Stoke were much better than Wrexham, but still pretty average I thought. Baz - 5/10 although perhaps could not have set up the striker for the first goal Fraser - 5/10 - Probably highest score he'll get. Very workmanlike. Stephens - 5/10 Wood 5/10 - ok in parts, iffy in others. THB - 6/10 because he got the goal, but otherwise just ok. Downes - 4/10 average at best. Doesn't really do much. Fernandes - 6/10. Busy, not his best game. Charles - 5/10 ok in parts but really need to see a lot more from him. Welington - 5/10 when he was on. Manning 5/10. Needs to make runs and look to cross from the by-line. Robinson - best player 6/10 - does need to work on decision-making and perhaps releasing the ball earlier at times AA - Oh well. 4/10 Subs Stewart - starting to look worse and worse. 3/10 Archer - same old - 3/10 Downs - 3/10. Worryingly poor. Mads. 5/10. Improved us immediately. We really need some creativity.

I'm kinda impressed. I agree on the movement and positioning; better than I'd thought but not so sure on the goalscoring ability. I think he's a bit like Jay-Rod when he joined us: needs to get a bit tougher and street-wise.

Nope, but I'd 've thought so after the first half. We weren't very good and I'm not going to be over-elated because we won in extra time (Fucking get in there! Well deserved!) because we really weren't very good and were playing a 'team' that were plainly awful. There are many, much better teams and we'll have to do better to get promoted automatically and we'll have to be consistent and have a much more potent attack. There is clearly a huge lack of creativity in the side and if we had a few players who could 'make things happen' it would change that side of the game immensely. I looked at the game as a whole and we were often outright pedestrian.

Nope. We most certainly did not.

Back from the game. First half we were nothing. A better team but no desire, invention, anything. Second half better and glad we got the win. Deserved overall. They were nothing with Moore on and less with him off. He is quite canny and very dirty. We were a poor side until MF came on though. Baz. Still doesn't hold himself like a goalie but the fingertip save was excellent. 5 Suga - oh well. A generous 4. Edwards. In some ways good, did cope with KM quite well apart from being about 18 inches shorter than him and very slow - why didn't Quarshie take him? 5 (just) JS - couple of moments where you could see the farts forming. Same old. Good for the goal. 5 Quarshie. Ok at this level. Didn't see the electric pace. Thought nothing of the long throws. Can't see him stepping up. Falls asleep a bit too. Not especially convincing defensively. 5 Welington - looked alright. Continuously ignored when he went on the overlap. 5 Downes. Ok. Not much of anything. Did nobble one of their players which was nice. 5 Charles. Ok. Very right footed, doesn't look like he'll score many in his career. 5 - maybe 5.5. Fraser. Busy. Not much use really, even at the end when he did get crosses in. I'd use him as a sub. 4. Robinson. His first touch is a second touch, no power, head down. Quite unimpressive despite what people here are saying. Did try to and occasionally did make things happen though so he was effective. Don't see him as a PL player ever though. 5 AA - same as, but less busy. Subs: MF - lifted everyone and the team played better. Manning. Did well. Is quite slow at getting his head up; most of us are. RS - looks very frail and fragile. Might develop into a footballer, but based on that he was poor. DD - looked quite good and made a couple of good, clever runs that were missed. CA - didn't do much. Can't see Wrexham doing anything other than struggling based on that.

Hate to break it to you, but cheerleaders are shit. And so are American sports.

Why have you let so many asshats attend? Does Blackmore get paid by the word? Has RA broken something that he hasn't already broken yet?

Well that's not actually the argument you think it is, but ho hum.