The Wyvern

And if they had caught us spying previously why have they not complained to the efl about it at the time?

Surely that is relevant, as we’re not contesting we broke the efl law, but we are going to load up with every possible mitigation under the sun?

Referencing the Human Rights Act, hadn’t even thought of that one 🤣

Clearly a very different tone from Winter here compared with what he’s used with us.

Why do we need to release our ticket sales plan same time as Hull? Never been a thing before. Obviously been told to hold off selling for now.

Within the efl’s rules, could they have deducted points from Leeds if they’d wanted to?

Why will it be 1pm?

What would be a suitable punishment in your opinion?

Love to be hated and show a mean streak for once. The club has always been far too nice.

How and why were they fined if they weren’t found guilty of anything?

Can anyone tell me why the punishment given to Leeds isn't a precedent? They were found guilty having done the same thing we have, so why is the punishment not the precedent to follow for us? Bringing in a new law doesn't change that in my opinion, as the offence was already punishable when Leeds were caught.

Reading the Boro forum, there is a long thread with them all anti-Reform.

From their forum thread on welcoming the coaches 🤣 “I was in Southampton visiting extended family. When this started, a couple of them leaned over to me and said '**** me, I wish we had support like that, today is gonna be hard'. Never have I beamed so much for my peeps in a small town in Europe.” Definitely filed in that big folder of things that never happened.

I’d argue it’s luck not judgement that’s got us this far. We’re not playing a clever cagey game deliberately letting them have the ball. We’ve had very little say in this so far.

We’re having no say in how this game is going currently.

That’s my reading of it too.

What is the actual offence here? Trespass onto their land? If the training is viewable from public land, what is the issue?

Ha, their supporters coming across like proper angry little men in that thread. Desperate for us to be kicked out and punished.

Clearly many people find it more enjoyable, for a whole range of reasons it is more fun. Of course winning helps, but its certainly not as black and white as that. Being able to celebrate a goal without VAR checks alone beats everything the Premier League can offer for me. Others don't mind VAR or some might even like it, but there are plenty of us who despise it.

Peretz has been so good for us, got to allow him one mistake.

Could see Derby beating Millwall for example.

Apart from the first 10mins and last 10mins I thought we were good, and looked the most like getting the win. Can see why Ipswich are up there, great quality to bring off the bench and they also seem to have that jammy knack of getting things to just fall right for them. I was disappointed with Szienza - too wasteful too often and goes down looking for a foul too often. If you're going to dive, do it well. And I thought Stewart was poor when he came on as he has been the last few weeks. Not sure what has happened, not 100% fit perhaps, but he hasn't offered much lately. 2nd place was always very unlikely. We've got to fancy our chances for the play offs now, though finishing 5th will be a disappointment.

Very strong finish to the half from us.

No reason we should be much more tired than Ipswich. Both sides played a lot of football lately and we’ve rotated most of our side.

Thought we were loud and Man City even quieter than expected, silent until the last few mins. Only moan would be us singing the same songs over and over, owts and yellows in particular.