The Wyvern

EMEA President. A decent level, but I’d guess in reality it’s just a senior business admin role. Very little public facing, thinking on your feet to make deals, or crisis management. Would expect him to be fairly proficient with corporate governance though.

Can’t be beyond the imagination that Gibson offered this lad some kind of incentive to make any future negative impacts on his career worthwhile.

You’d think future employers would think twice about giving him a chance, no way he could be trusted.

“I don’t feel too bad to be honest” 🤣

Again, surely it can’t be a case of being able to sack staff to avoid a further punishment whenever a club gets caught doing something wrong. Just more evidence of very badly defined rules/punishment processes.

Also, hypothetically, there’s no time-bar on such claims? So a club could drop something in at any time they fancied?! This is the problem with rules, they always require more and more rules.

Hypothetically, let’s say there’s evidence of us spying on 15 extra games last season. By the precedent set that would mean we get a further 30-45 points deduction? 🤣 At what point would it be capped?!

You’d think clubs might be put off employing these whistleblowers in the future, can’t help their careers.

Plenty of Boro tears, beautiful to see. They were far the better team which makes it even better. Hackney to be sold.

I'm no lawyer, but I can't see a legal argument there whatsoever. If we hadn't been negligent we would have played a game that would have given us a chance of promotion. I can't see that carrying much weight.

Very creepy that this seems comparable to him doesn't it.

Very interesting that rape and asking someone to watch some footballers training are comparable on your moral compass. Says a lot about your world view.

I'm sure the players are angry and I doubt Tonda will be our manager next season, but one of the main reasons they were even in with a shout of the Premier League was Tonda's impact. These same players had stunk the place out for a third of the season under the previous manager. And if we'd simply lost to Hull or Middlesbrough our best players would have been looking for a move away, such is the nature of football.

He was brought in for the appeal (too late, the damage had been done), this is from the first hearing I think.

Exactly. Unusually emotive language for such a report and our media whipping it up further.

Nothing particularly new there, an absolute amateur shambles from us from start to finish.

Completely agree. Unfortunately one way or another he’ll be gone, the pitch forks are out and there won’t be many left standing at the end of this.

One way or another I'm sure he'll be fired and/or banned, but worth remembering we wouldn't even be in a position to be close to a £200m game if it hadn't been for Tonda's impact. Still, Rusk, Juric, to an extent Martin, couldn't get a tune out of these players.

Agreed, good post. And one tiny bit of luck for us, play-offs dropping down to 8th next season, I'm confident we'll be involved in those and even gives us a chance if we have a slow start after a summer of upheavel.

Angry unhappy man being unhappy and angry I see.

Completely agree, spot on. Unfortunately the way of the world these days he’ll be either sacked or banned. Disappointing knee-jerk reaction from so many of our fans though.

If we'd just got a fine from the efl and were playing at Wembley in a couple of days time would you still be calling for him to be sacked?

Massive overration from the EFL, the media, and the Karens of this forum. Absolute shambles from Saints, but hopefully with a bit of time and when the dust settles everyone will calm down and gain a bit of perspective. Yes, there will be sackings and we'll lose some key players, but we will still be one of the biggest clubs in the Championship next season and will have a set-up and infrastructure far better than most. If Middlesbrough had nicked a win against us last week or we'd sneaked into the play off final with a heavy fine, whilst still being clearly guilty of "spying", all these conversations and emotional outbursts wouldn't be on the agenda. We fucked up, got caught, got a very heavy punishment and we're angry with the club for getting caught and are blaming them for the severity of the punishment. Come August 99% of us will be back in St Marys cheering the side on like we've always done.

I think once the dust settles down we'll end up retaining more of our players than many expect. We'll still have good quality Championship level players like Fellowes, Matsuki, Manning would be my guess and we'll get good money for those that leave. Biggest shame will be Peretz and Larin not joining us, particularly Peretz for me who made an incredible difference.

Yeah, why would anyone from Saints leak such a bit of information?