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Given that Lowe's PR merchants are on here predicting violence and advising us not to take our families along has anyone considered whether there might be a plan to infiltrate the march with some pro-Lowe nutters that would be only too happy to help cause a bit of trouble? Even by simply raising the threat of violence perhaps they hope that numbers might be reduced so that Lowe can dismiss the protest more easily. For what it's worth I'm unable to make it down to Southampton today but I'll be with those on the march in sentiment. It's good to see that there are some that will do what they can to save SFC from these clowns.

I could've but have been snowed under with work instead. Then I went to the pub for a couple of pints although I could have started reading this earlier of course. Cheers!

I've just read through this thread of ifs, buts and maybes. Trouble is it really has driven me mad with all the "could of", "would of", "should of" and similar phrases. I don't know whether it's something to do with modern day education but it really distracts from the point being made as far as I'm concerned. Would it be at all possible to revert to the English of "could have", "would have", "should have", etc? Or even abbreviated to "could've" and so on if you really fancy it. I might just be able to concentrate on the various Lowe, Wilde and Crouch prejudices then. Cheers!

Presumably Talksport rang him to ask about the situation at SFC. Now let's think what the "right" answer might be. a) Let's have even more division until we get rid of the devil incarnate b) Pull together, good of the club, etc, etc If he ever wanted to step inside St Mary's under the current regime I reckon answer b) would be the logical and politic answer regardless of what he really thinks. Either that or he's been got at.

I sense the hand of Lowe behind this "Southampton United" spin and, to be quite honest, that makes me rather more cynical. There is one person at SFC that has been the catalyst for the division that afflicts the supporters but he seems to be in hiding at the moment although his luvvies are doing their bit. I respect TT's views even if he makes my blood boil on so many Saturday tea times. I've no problem with getting behind the team during the game but that's been the way of things virtually all season. However, if this is an attempt to gloss over the mistakes of the divisive clowns in the boardroom then my reaction would be along the lines of "sod off".

To do that we need to score. And more than one at that. Highly unlikely IMO. In fact I'd be more worried about Donny getting a 2nd. Forest now 2 up by the way. New manager anyone?

As I said. Same as usual.

Well it looks like deja vu all over again doesn't it. Just no idea how to score at home. What's the betting that Donny nick this in the 2nd half then?

Looking to the past and basking in a warm glow of happy memories is surely something well do. I know I like nothing better than to chew over good old days when down the pub so why not the same on a message board. It certainly takes the mind of the seemingly pointless rage at our powerlessness to affect current events, be they to do with Saints, bankers or those scoundrels that like to call themselves politicians. And there's another thing. It's all very well looking to the future but to do so while ignoring events of the past is to go blindly forward.

It's a bit early in the game to be taking the lead isn't it? How long to hold out?

If it wasn't for Kelvin we'd be buggered already.

Almost a strange religious fervour on this thread which I find a little unsettling because it chimes with my usual growing optimism before the game starts. Smiling eyes raised to the sky regardless of prevailing circumstances turns me off a little so I hope you don't mind if stay outside of this sect, especially since I'll probably be having to drown the usual sorrows tonight. I'll go my own way with a borrowed bus ad along the lines of: There probably is a Rupert Lowe so keep worrying while trying to enjoy life with Saints.

Disagree. Unless you think that 1 point from those games counts as success.

Plan A was still surprising the opposition. Plan A has now been well and truly sussed out by the opposition. There is no Plan B.

We shouldn't be looking for anything other than 3 wins from these games but I suspect Jan's plan will be to not lose by too many in each case and maybe, with a bit of luck, scrape a victory somewhere. Trouble is we're not scoring enough so the prospect of getting 3 points in any of these important games is remote. Maybe if I put my optimistic hat on I can see a result at Barnsley and consequent renewed hope of turning the corner from the Lowe brigade before yet another home defeat and an away embarrassment bring back the dawning reality of being marooned at the bottom. I fear for the souls of our youngsters this season. They'll need long term counselling if they're not to be badly broken as things go from bad to worse.

Desperation perhaps? Should raise the average age a bit.

Good grief! Was that a Dalek post without any direct or oblique reference to how the fans are at fault for Hoddle not saving us from all this grief?

Bradford was an unwelcoming ****hole. Excellent celebrations with the team on the train back to London though.

Interesting to hear other people talk about Southampton, the place where I was born and brought up until I left in my early 20s some 30 years ago. I still hanker after returning to the place having lived in a number of other places during my time away but as each year goes by I become less sure about it. Yeah, there's the sea, the Forest, the Saints and so on but whenever I go back I just see the place as one big traffic jam. Car City is what I call it with a crap bus company too. Somehow it feels a little less like home than it used to. Of course I blame Lowe for that (mostly).

I wouldn't get too excited over that point. First half was pretty poor stuff from both sides and only the rattling of Reading's bar really made me think we might have any chance of scoring. Second half a bit brighter after some of the Christmas pud seemed to have been worked off and enjoyed the opening goal. Of course that simply woke the Royals up and then it was panic stations in Saints defence. I see we still can't defend set pieces and, to be honest, I reckoned nil points was the more likely outcome after Saints sloppily conceded again. Suppose I should be happy with the point but, unless we start to score some bloody goals at St. Mary's, we'll be stuffed by Easter. Happy New Year, when it comes.

I had planned to go but now the car has decided it doesn't want to. My attendance now depends upon the RAC. Maybe a blessing in disguise.

Reading will not stand off and watch like they did at the Mad Stad. I expect our pretty passing to be under pressure from the off and "the boys" will find it hard to get forward. There might be the chance of a late consolation though as the Royals take the foot off the gas. The Boys 1 - 4 The Men.

SaintJay, you really come across as a pedant of the highest order. Ever thought of asking Lowe for a job as one of his hangers-on?

Just shows what a divisive figure Lowe is. I'd suggest people should unite in opposing the bloke.

What is it with some people that seem to get some strange enjoyment by twisting something innocuous into a slight that they have to feel outraged by? There's some pretty high horses under the likes of Ponty and DPS tonight by the look of it. Or are they "Lowe" horses? Jeez!