Saint_clark

Tempted to actually watch all of this if they upload it, i've been that deprived of football.

It's a good job no-ones advocating we have both of them as first choice then, isn't it.

Haven't watched it but if players were acting "odd" around him, imagine how you would act if one of your co-workers had a camera strapped to them that was going to publish the footage online for the world to see - you'd probably avoid the limelight and tone down what you had to say as well.

Just had a quick nose at their thread - do they not get the irony of playing the victim card about being called victims?

Please, please can we hold an unofficial minutes silence before we play them, with banners and everything?

That first season he was also used out on the wing for the vast majority of it. Only time he got a proper run up front was the second season when Pelle was out injured.

Oops, that was meant to be Wimmer for £15million!

...Cortese?

I want to be the first to blame MLG for this whole thing.

Is this coming from somebody on our end or theirs?

Personally if we sell Van Dijk for £70million, I'd get Sigurdsson for £45million and Wimmer for £15million, with the extra £10million easily covering their wages. People will say we'd never spend that much but there's no excuse, if we're getting that sort of fee it needs to be reinvested and not in £12million potential players. It's a lot of quality to lose and we need instant quality coming in.

But would still be a massive downgrade. Why did he have to turn out to be such a c*nt.

Anyone got any idea what the process is for getting a refund on your season ticket? Do they even allow it?

For me it's the first big mistake they've made (Puel is debatable). For that reason I won't be asking for any changes in personnel, but there needs to be a change in approach.

Not for that amount. £75million and everyone will be saying we've robbed them blind.

If we're selling him to them it needs to be for £75million, we cannot sell him for less than our valuation and we cannot sell to them even for it - any other outcome we've made ourselves look like idiots.

Bet he moves for more than we paid.

After his first home game? He led us to the play-offs the season after...

For me selling Van Dijk to Liverpool now for anything under £70million would actually be the very first instance of them knowingly ****ing the fans over. There have been a couple of mistakes before but nothing major enough to ignore the fantastic progress we've made as a club.

He'll be off next summer for sure either way. Gets back to his best and puts in a fantastic season? Sell him to Liverpool for £30million. Is ****ing awful and makes mistakes left right and centre? Sell him to a newly promoted side for £10million and get a replacement in. Win win for me, personally.

Wait what!? We're back in the championship, with an unqualified management team, selling our senior players to just use youth and heading towards administration and league one!?

Was always poor when out wide, if we're going to insist on using him there we may as well sell and reinvest - hope we don't though and use him as another option up front. Personally don't see why Gabbiadini can't play just off of one of Long or Austin, one of whom is excellent in the air and the other is excellent at holding it up.

Surely keeping hold of Van Dijk IS showing the intent to push on?

If they offer £70million, he is theirs. That's been the case from the start. Why should we accept less than our valuation?

Truth is we've spent around £40million every window for the last few years, it would be nothing new - only difference would be spending it on one player instead of several. If we thought that our squad needed that one player to take it up a notch and nothing else, i'd like to think we'd do it.