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Giving up smoking. What with the no fags and no cialis I'm so ****ing rich.

me? nah. Never come on here myself guv, apart from the odd weekday and weekend.

I quite like going to SMS and seeing working wharves instead of cloned flats and bog standard riverfront developments.

Why would you post in response to DD's hundreds of posts on a thread about them and other people listening to their games? (who's next?)

Just your everyday torque transducers manufacturers cum shady football factoring. http://www.vibrac.com. Either that or its a totally unrelated company

If premature babies born at 23 weeks are frequently surviving then an abortion limit of 24 weeks is clearly wrong. Personally I'd go for a limit of something like 16 weeks unless there was a massive abnormality.

1. We've heard there is temporary pause in the spiffy new Staplewood build and are convinced the sky is about to fall 2. We were worried about no new players but are now worried we didn't have all the cash up front for the players we wanted and are convinced the sky is about to fall 3. Adkins got us back to back promotions, but now we've lost to Man City and Man U we are worried he is crap and the sky is about to fall etc etc...

That article says John Amaechi has retired from being gay

Julian Clary, though Kate Price is a very good call.

Probably welded his hands together.

Is this what you meant DD? Or did you mean lily livered mugs?

erm I think he was joining you in with satire not having a go

One of the comments on the BBC site was "Either leave him alone or shoot him, just stop wasting the money"

Good point, some natural justice there.

Thats the third toe curlingly awful piece Ive seen from her in the past three weeks. She should be ditched asap.

I'm saying some judgement should be made about whats really in the public interest.

Six years in prison will have cost c£120,000. Add in al the police and court time and you wont be getting any change from £250,000. That money would have kept people alive who died whilst waiting for operations or who had to take cheaper older medicines. Is that the best use of money?

So if he doesnt comply you'd lock him up for life? According to the BBC story he doesnt wear clothes in prison either. Should he be forced dressed and tasered everytime he takes a sock off? Im being facetious to make a point. What do you do with people who repeatedly dont comply with the 'rules' but arent really doing any harm.

Im not saying lets all get naked. I wouldn't for one. Its more about how society treats some oddball who wanders around without clothes on. He isnt getting wood on, he isnt leaning against people on the tube - but we are still jailing him for six years. Something isnt right.

Sure. My ex was Swedish and every year we'd go to her parents summer house - no running water, wash and bathe naked in the lake. Her her mum and brother, neighbours etc all did the same thing. I used to get up early and sneak in when nobody was around, my 12 year old Brit niece refused to wash for a week. Its all about conditioning - and as a nation we are hung up about it.

Thats the problem right there. So many Brits cant separate nudity from sex. Just because this guy is nude doesnt mean its got anything to do with sex.

Its always tricky balance between individual rights and collective rights. I want to play loud music and have friends over for a bbq - you my next door neighbour doesnt want me to.

Thats what the communist Soviet and Chinese states used to do (still do sometimes). The logic went -'we have created the ideal society, if you oppose it you must be mentally ill' and rthe perpetrators were carted off to prisons pretending to be sanatoriums. Britain has lost more of our historical tolerance than we'd like to think.

That whole contempt of court thing has always puzzled me with regard to points of principal. Sure a court has the power to punish you for a crime, but to then punish you again because you dont agree with its judgement smacks of something dark and intolerant to me. He has been arrested for walking past kids playgrounds and schools - but as far as I know he is just doing that as a normal part of a life on the road - he isnt specifically targetting them or marching up and down outside for hours - which I agree would be unacceptable, as would hanging around any location or group specfically. Seems an odd rule anyway - as if kids are only found at schools.

The naked rambler - an ex marine from Eastleigh has spent nearly all of the past six years in prison because he refuses to wear clothes. Nothing sexual, just walking around naked. He has consistently been arrested and jailed, especially in Scotland. The guy has been trying make a point about freedom. Personally Im not sure the point is worth making but imo his treatment is a really sad indictment of what a controlling and intolerant society we have become. You need a few harmless oddballs and characters. My kids have seen the naked bike ride by chance when we were in Brighton, they thought it was hilarious. Should this guy get years in prison until he conforms to a social norm? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19625542