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Thanks for this "news"

Is this the same 'fan' that threw a brick through Mr Wilde's window?

Better late than never Mr Saints News Update.....

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Wotte: "My role is to assist Jan" Wotton said: "I am thrilled and honoured to be signing for Southampton. The new man, who joins on a three year deal, was particularly impressed by Saints' new-look approach, as explained to him by Jan Poortvliet's Dutch assistant. "I met Mark Wotte yesterday and he spoke very well. I was impressed by him and the way he wants to play football and how he sees me fitting in" :confused:

Not bad for a Tory boy, eh? I'll reveal all on the Blair and Brown administration too in due course....

Saints VS QPR = high risk for crowd trouble? Any historic facts to back this up? I always had this down as a pretty benign fixture supporter wise.

The last I heard, there was no development planning permission for Jackson's Farm. So, how come a sub-station has materialised there....anyone?

Excuse my conspiracy theory tendencies but... (a) how would a poster on here not have heard of 'Jacksons Farm' before and (b) how would they know that a new electricity sub station had been recently built on it? An innocent explanation no doubt so excuse my idle curiosity.... (I'd obviously be less curious if you hadn't joined so recently.... )

And, if one searches on the OS, there's another 18 pages of quotes from where those came from.....

I'm repeating myself ad-nauseum here but as it doesn't appear to be sinking in, here goes one more try... I'm AGREEING with you about supporting Wotte since Poortvliet "resigned". This doesn't mean that I can't make a judgement or have an opinion on his involvement prior to that. As you rightly say, none of us know how much he was actually involved in influencing Jan's decisions - it could be "a lot" or it could be "not much", but we can't rule either out.... so, just to recap (yet again).....I AGREE THAT WOTTE IS DOING A BETTER JOB AT GALVANISING THE TEAM SINCE POORTVLIET LEFT AND THAT WE SHOULD GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PROVE HOW GOOD HE IS. (sorry for writing that in shouty capitals - just trying to make it as clear as possible that I agree with you about the here-and-now)

I don't see how he can form part of a seamless management team without getting involved in the first team tactics, team talks etc....as the quotes above from the OS testify

Wotte: "My role is to assist Jan and give guidance to the Academy and to produce players for the Championship and ultimately the Premier League." Jan Poortvliet today outlined his blueprint for Saints after taking over as head coach. The 52-year-old former Dutch international gave an impressive press conference after signing a one-year rolling contract. He will work closely with compatriot Mark Wotte. Together they will look to push through youngsters from the Orchard Homes Academy, schooling them in the traditional Dutch style of total football. Whilst Jan Poortvliet assumes the role of head coach, Mark Wotte will provide the link between the first team and the Club's young talent Wotte hopes that the Dutch duo's Orange revoltion will help transform Saints' fortunes When the call came a second time, Wotte had no hesitation in accepting the role alongside is fellow countryman. Although the pair have not worked together before, they share the same footballing philosophy Wotte: "A lot of coaches want to take all the decisions but Jan is very open-minded and we will discuss everything Hockaday (left) is still buzzing with excitement at the prospect of working with the club's new coaches Jan Poortvliet (centre) and Mark Wotte (right). In tandem with Reserve boss Stewart Henderson, they will provide a seamless transition from the youth team through to the senior side. All the club sides will play the same way so that youngsters will be able to slot in when they are ready or required. The Celtic clash at St Mary's will be the first chance for Saints fans to see their new-look side under the fresh management of Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte. Perry jumped at the chance of a return to St Mary's. He was brought on loan by Nigel Pearson who has since been replaced by Dutch duo Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte. Holmes believes the passing style of the new managers will suit his game as a creative midfielder who loves to get forward and to have a go. Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte intend to blend youth and experience into an attractive, attacking force. The new management duo of Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte have scheduled double training sessions every day for the first fortnight to ensure the team are fully fit for a potential promotion push. Mark Wotte is hoping Michael Svensson can make a remarkable come-back - but the Saints coach is determined not to rush him. Wotton said: "I am thrilled and honoured to be signing for Southampton. The new man, who joins on a three year deal, was particularly impressed by Saints' new-look approach, as explained to him by Jan Poortvliet's Dutch assistant. "I met Mark Wotte yesterday and he spoke very well. I was impressed by him and the way he wants to play football and how he sees me fitting in. " Simon Gillett has signed a new contract which could keep him at St Mary's until 2011. He was uncertain about his future until Dutch duo Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte were appointed to head up the new revolutionary management team. Saints today begin pre-season training with a new-look coaching team in place. Head coach Jan Poortvliet and assistant Mark Wotte will get their first chance to cast an eye over the squad. Jason Dodd will remain a fervent Saints fan even though he is no longer part of the club. The long-serving stalwart is no longer part of the coaching set-up with Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte now taking charge. PLC chairman Rupert Lowe added: "Jan Poortvliet, Mark Wotte and I have all spoken to Nathan and we have offered him a very fair contract which he has so far declined and he is now on a week-to-week basis. Mark Wotte will continue to mirror the first team's approach with an attacking 4-3-3 formation Lowe: "Despite our financial position Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte are very excited about what will be a young dynamic team determined to play fast and attractive football. I hope everyone involved with the Club will get behind Jan, Mark and the team." (quotes courtesy of http://www.saintsfc.co.uk) So, Wotte and Jan didn't work together then? Hmmm....

What do you understand by the term "seamless management team"? (and, yes, one thing we can agree on is that this isn't complicated.... )

No-one is saying that Wotte (or Svennson in your analogy) shouldn't be congratulated for what he's doing now. But that doesn't exclude him from criticism regarding his influence (or otherwise) in the past. I would have reacted the same way whether it was Wotte, Svennson or whoever. Again, why do people have this illogical stance that current tense praise and past tense criticism are somehow mutually exclusive? :smt017

Are you my wife?

+1 (or at least turn off the control characters that get posted within the message text)

p.s. thread title would benefit from a question mark at the end

Just as well, as the club would be breaking LSE rules if they leaked such information.....so the fact they haven't heard anything is more likely to suggest there will be an announcement.... Happy Friday 13th to one and all :cool:

How would you know that....? p.s. average posts per day for Trousers = 5.42 (approx 0.69% of a given day on average) p.p.s. I'm starting to take this malarkey too seriously again.....

Just one question still buzzing around my head at this late hour.... Can someone explain how Poorvliet and Wotte being described by Michael Wilde as a 'Seamless Managment Team' somehow translates into Wotte having no influence on our 1st team performances for the first 2/3rds of the season? I agree that Wotte will deserve plaudits if he keeps us up, due to his tactical u-turning and good fortune to have more 'expensive' players at his disposal but, being the balanced chap that I am, these plaudits will be offset by criticism for the part he played in putting us in the very hole he's trying to get us out of in the first place. What is so wrong with seeing both sides of the coin?

Not yet...I'm a slow reader

Correct. I'm not in charge of my department at work either, but I have a significant amount of influence in what happens on the 'shop floor'..... Did Gordon Brown not help shape Government policy when Tony Blair was 'in charge'....? Why do people continue to believe that a person in an important senior role within an organisation would not have any significance influence on said organisation? I could always dredge out the quotes, interviews and videos from 9 months ago for the umpteenth time....