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Jan: "Two bloody years. That's how long it'll take me to save up for a deposit on one of these on the pittance that Lowe pays me"

I assume that it's the National Forum Moderators Annual Convention today? (this year being held at the Andalucia Plaza Marbella Hotel "because it's cheaper than holding it in the UK"....yeah, right)

Ha! You couldn't make it up (and indeed you didn't!)

Jan to Fulthorpe: You try kicking our tyres and I'll blow you away

We believe you

No, they are being chased by bananas on Tuesdays "Bananas in pyjamas are coming down the stairs, Bananas in pyjamas are coming down in pairs, Bananas in pyjamas are chasing teddy bears, 'cos on Tuesdays they all try to catch them unawares!"

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After extensive plastic surgery, all is revealed why Saints No.007 Rudi Skacel hasn't played recently

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=10690

Inuit

Another one in the "appearance fees too high" camp perhaps?

Will Fulthopre & Co keep him on? (given money won't be (as much of) an issue, in theory)

Would seem to be consistent with what said Millwall fan thought....still, as people say, no point judging until we've seen him (on the TV highlights, obviously, given I "never go to a game")

I've just asked an avid Millwall fan (yes, he goes to every home game...) what he thought of Ryan Smith and here's his reply: "Very skilful player but lightweight with a questionable attitude. He is also injury prone. Cannot get into our side. " Make of that what you will.....

When I was a member (season ticket holder) of Essex County Cricket Club for 5 years in the 90s (don't ask....) I didn't sign up and handover my money because of any lure of getting "free" matches. I saw it more holistically than that. I bought it because I wanted to feel a part of the set up and the feeling of prestige and belonging that went with it. I still think that in the football world 'members' (season ticket holders) look at it too narrowly as simply a financial saving. If more people saw it as investing emotionally as well as financially into an organisation that they feel a sense of belonging to - a badge of pride as it were - then why "worry" about the price that other more casual visitors pay to come to see 'your' club play?

Who?

Agree....although I'd repeat that it's a shame that people need to "mollified" in the first place...as I say...the intrinsic value of people's "shares" in an organisation can go up and down depending on fortunes and circumstances. It's a risk concept that season ticket holders could take on board. IMO.

Best go and see a doctor about that.

Dunno. That would suggest I'm talking out of my hat....!

Season ticket holders in cutting off nose to spite face shocker! As Mr Luker says, winning games will naturally boost attendances (due to the increase in quality of the commodity on offer) but, paradoxically of course, a good crowd boosts the chances of starting a run of winning games in the first place. So, a few "one off" discounts to get a better match between "quality" and "price" is sensible economics. Season ticket holders shouldn't go into a season with "it's only about the value I get" blinkers on. They are effectively buying shares in the club and, as we all know, the price (value) of shares can go up and down depending on the fortunes of the company being invested in. Season ticket holders 'moaning' about non-season ticket holders getting 'perks' is missing the simple economics of the situation. IMHO of course

5....4.....3.....2.....1.....

It suggests there is a clause in his contract that says something along the lines of: "I can leave on a free transfer if I'm not in the match day squad but will only receive a pay bonus if I get on the pitch"

Correct. That's logic for you. As with any commodity, the better the quality of the product the more people are prepared to pay for it, and more often. A simple economic principle.

It's sometimes ironic too....