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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

Nothing

Unless the club's social media department decide not to show footage of him to keep people guessing...

3-1 Holland

Well, that didn't last long.... 2-1 Free header in the box from a Bulgarian free kick. Don't think it was Hoedt's man but not sure

Netherlands 2 up now

With Sweden at home to Luxembourg in their penultimate game, I suspect the goal difference will be too high for the Dutch to overturn come the NED v SWE game. That said, the Dutch still have to play Belarus who are almost as poor as Luxembourg

Another goal for Sweden. 0-3 Sweden's goal difference to Netherlands is now up to +6

Belarus 0 Sweden 2 (24 mins) Not what the Dutch (and us re: one of VvD's incentives to get back in the fold at Saints) wanted

Belarus 0 Sweden 1 (18 mins) Netherlands back to 3 points behind Sweden

Netherlands 1 Bulgaria 0 (8 mins) Netherlands currently 1 point behind second place Sweden as things stand.

Hoedt in the starting 11 for today's game Vs Bulgaria

Bertie!! Smile FFS!

This has got 0-0 written all over it

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Boufal should be starting games IMO. We payed a club record (at the time) for a creative player and we're crying out for creativity. Yes, he can be frustrating but that's possibly due to a lack of consistent game time. Chicken and egg.

Bertrand looks as hacked off playing for England as he does when he plays for us!

How do you know he was "disillusioned" at Saints? It might just be about different degrees of 'happiness'. I'd be happy with a 4 star hotel but even happier with a 5 star hotel. Or something.

I had one eye on the France v Holland game last night. There wasn't much, if anything, Hoedt could have done about the first 3 goals IMO (indeed, for the middle two goals the play leading up to them wasn't even in his vicinity IIRC). Yes, he got turned inside out for the 4th goal, but I'd like to see a defender that Mbappe wouldn't have skinned with the skill he exhibited there. Didn't come away from the game worried about Hoedt's performance. It wasn't great, but it wasn't dreadful. IMO. I'm certainly not going to judge him on one performance in a Dutch side who were very poor overall.

Maybe he's gone to find Tartan Owl to compare notes....?

Please accept my apologies for attempting lighthearted banter on an internet football forum

I'd throw VvD straight back into the starting 11. Coutinho played for Brazil last night despite being 'injured' and not match fit. VvD strikes me as one of those athletes that wouldn't need to spend as much time 'getting up to match speed' as other players. And the longer we leave him out the longer any discord will fester.