Matthew Le God

Both our predictions are compatible. It may be resolved soon as you say. However only due to alot of groveling on the part of the Echo behind closed doors.

I doubt the club took the decision lightly and was possibly the straw that broke the camels back after a number of "incidents". Speculation of course on my part but Mr Cortese doesn't come across as a man that would impose a ban for a one off discretion. Nor the type that would feel the need to impose a ban and then back down within days. I feel this ban is to send a message that whatever they did was unacceptable. We don't yet know what they are supposed to have done, what the ban is exactly and if the Echo is innocent or guilty. So for people to call Mr Cortese "pompous" or the ban excessive is ridiculous as the crime is not known and the punishment is only sketchy to the public atm so to decide whether it is appropriate or not is bizarre given the current evidence.

You only highlighted part of the sentence and took it out of context. Look at the "if"...

I doubt that will happen any time soon and if it does it will be because the Echo did alot of groveling. The balance of power is very much with the club as they don't need the Echo as much as the Echo needs access to the club in the modern age of multi source and easily available media. Most of the Echo's "exclusives' have come because the club has told them before anyone else. In future the club can do this elsewhere if it wants and doesn't trust the Echo anymore.

Turnstile stewards issued with photos wouldn't work. No way can they check whether all 20,000 fans entering work for the Echo. The stewards aren't paid enough to care and would just let anyone in rather than have a stand off. Most stewards don't look at you as you hand them the ticket anyway. If I were a dishonest person(which I'm not) I reckon I could get into St Mary's with a child ticket as the stewards barely check validity of tickets let alone them scan the crowd for Echo staff. What the club will do is stop the Echo having interviews after the match and at the training ground and also stop feeding them stories. It isn't a restraint of trade because if the club wishes it can stop anyone entering the ground including the freelance photographers. Perfectly within their rights to add conditions.

Why have you lost respect for Nicole Cortese when you don't know what happened? Completely illogical. You are passing judgement on a punishment without knowing the crime apart from an account from those in the dock. They may be guilty they may be innocent but you don't know what of!!! So how can't you then decide if a ban was excessive or not? Secondly the club doesn't need the Echo and can get on fine without them. The Echo needs Saints on the other hand. As for you getting Saints news, there are plenty of other media outlets in the modern age to get Saints news.

Did you not notice how different that stadium looks to St Mary's? Lots of clues you could use. The scoreboard being one of many.

Well that would stop the Torquay debate. Use progressed or knocked out in capitals, makes it clear at a glance which were cup games.

NickG from now on use this... ????? Colchester ????? Exeter ????? Leeds WON Tranmere 3-0 Lambert (2) Harding WON Walsall 3-1 Connolly, Lambert, Hammond WON Wycombe 1-0 Lambert WON Hartlepool 3-1 Lallana (2) Lambert Drew Norwich 2-2 Lallana Connolly LOST Brighton 3-1 Lambert Drew Orient 2-2 Lambert (2) WON MK 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Oldham 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Southend 3-1 Lallana (2) Trottman WON Gillingham 4-1 Lambert, Lallana (2), Waigo

I do think we have a very good chance of making the play offs given the current form and hopefully squad improvement in January. However...your comparison of 9 points from safety and 9 points from the play offs is a poor one. It is much easier to catch up with teams at the bottom of the league than at the top.

If players can't run around for 90 minutes and then have 4 days to recover they shouldn't be professional athletes!

Birmingham are in the top 10 of the Premiership and Leeds are top of League One. Big difference. I'm not saying Leeds will be easy, of course they won't, but it can't be compared to the Brum game.

The club can't stop Echo reporters going to the game. Otherwise they'd have to make the stewards do full background checks on everyone going through the turnstiles, which of course isn't feasible. All they have done is stopped the Echo having behind the scenes access.

Arizona is conveniently forgetting that alot of his stats are comparing players/teams in the Premiership and Championship to players/teams in League One. Big difference playing Man Utd in the Premeirship or Newcastle in the Championship to playing Wycombe Wanderers in League One.

Norwich and Leeds are both near the top of the league. Saints were in the bottom four for along time. Considering that Saints are doing very well attendance wise. Higher than most Championship clubs and very close to many Premiership clubs whilst still in League One. Leeds are a bigger club than Saints and always have/will be so not really a surprise. Nothing else to do in Norfolk on a Saturday other than goto the football at Carrow Road. Should Saints get close to the playoffs they will start getting bigger gates than Norwich. They have a high number of season tickets and regular match goers however they won't be able to add much on what they currently get.

How can you say that? You are passing comment on a sentence without knowing the crime!!! Would you say a high court judge giving someone a 15 year sentence is harsh if you don't know the crime that put them in the dock in the first place? It could have been murder could have been shoplifting, they could be innocent they could be guilty. Until you know the crime any comment on the punishment is null and void.

That is not how 451 is played by Pardew. Wotton sits in front of the centre back and Schneiderlin and Hammond play in front.

You can never tell whether someone is on the wind up or is just stupid on these forums. It is full of people doing both.

No logic to that at all! That would be like making a comment on a high court judge giving a harsh 15 year prison sentence without you actually knowing the crime committed.

Are you not reading what people are saying? Ashton has been told that if he plays again it may prevent him ever walking on that leg for the rest of his life. Would you risk your mobility for the next 60 years just to play football?

No, out of principle!!! Use my link I have already provided

The second website on the link I gave is the most popular Leeds forum and has at least two Southampton related threads.

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again... You are taking what the Echo said in the editorial for the reason for the ban as FACT. If the club were upset about details going out before the press conference then it would ban all the press. They however did not and only banned the Echo. That begs the question "What did the Echo do differently?" On the face of it the only thing the Echo did differently to the other media that ran the story before the press conference was to show pictures of the development. In printing these pictures it make the Echo stand out as it stole the impact of any following press conference the next day. Yes, these pictures are available on the NFDC website, however this doesn't mean that the Echo has the right to print them without the clubs agreement. Saints fixture list for example is unable to be published or copied and pasted into a thread on this forum as it would break laws, yet it is able to be viewed by the public. As for your comment about researching for computer games...don't be so petty and grow up and learn to debate like an adult