Matthew Le God

In my opening post which you have clearly not fully read I said Crouch didn't say English league experience. He just said English manager. Which is discrimination based on nationality. English isn't even a nationality really either.

Basing managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability and limiting the applicant field to just English managers is not a good thing . How can you not agree with that?

I am yes.

Basing managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability and limiting the applicant field to just English managers is not a good thing. Do we really want a man in charge of our club that bases managerial appointments on nationality rather than ability? To make a condition of replacing with a manager with Championship or English lower league experience would be reasonable perhaps in our situation. However to confine the search for a manager to one nationality is a very strange. Would a Welsh, Scotsman or N. Irishman not do Leon? They are all British(same nationality as you). Yet you rule them out. Does it have to be English only? Give Mark Wotte a chance. Not because he is Dutch, not because he is not English. But because at present he is out manager and he hasn't even had one game yet. If your boss sacked you and said he would only apoint the best available English candidate and turned down Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates and interviewed 10 English applicants would that be fair? Why should we accept this from football clubs when we wouldn't in life? Welsh, Scots, Dutch, French candidates can have experience of managing in the Championship

Dave Jones wasn't sacked by Saints

Sell on clauses are quite often a % of the profit. We sold Jones for 6m and the Spurs/Sunderland deal is 6m plus Bent (so no profit) unless the value of Bent is taken into account. So perhaps even if we did have a clause this swap deal would prevent us getting anything.

You didn't trust the official site so you turned to Wikipedia - that reliable fountain of knowledge for football matters

I see they have his age at only 28 Relegation fights take years off

It's not worth much atm to any potential buyers(property developers) as you wouldn't be able to build on it at present

I'm going to have to make Saints even worse than there are currently in the game for the January transfer window update

Yes, but what about it?

For graphics and a guide for how to use them http://www.sortitoutsi.net/2009/graphics Use the super packs. What about the ingame editor do you want to know?

It is interesting how you pick up on his spelling of Thomson yet spell "player" incorrectly

If Football Manager 2009 is anything to go by as normally happens in these threads, he is quite good

use your scouts

Surely you can go 2 hours without one! If not you need more help than an internet forum can give. I never understand why someone would goto the concourse before the halftime whistle has blown for a drink or food let alone a fag. Just eat/drink/smoke before or after the game that you have spent £30 to watch. You won't die of thirst/hunger/cravings in the 2 hours you are watching football.

Pay the tiny amount of £5 then

Neither. His contract was not renewed in the summer.

I'm in the process of putting together a big graphics file. I will link to it when its finished.

yes, you can have team badges, comp logos, player pictures etc etc all added to the unlicensed leagues

Yes, there will be an official data update in Feb 2009 with all the Jan transfers

They were still in the games database even if no link.

Because Channon is not in the database as he is unlikely to ever be involved in football again.

Southampton F.C. Data Issues Thread - Football Manager 2009 Hello, I am the Southampton reseacher and will be paying close attention to any issues raised in this thread. I will be updating the known issues below so you know what has been noted for change already. Thankyou for reading and any help you can give with the Saints data would be greatly appreciated Matthew Le God Check below before posting! Known Issues Stern John and Nathan Dyer will be at Saints and Jordan Robertson, Alex Pearce and Ryan Smith won't be with Saints in FM09. Football Manager never includes short term loans made after the transfer deadline in August. Some links to other Southampton threads... Southampton Data Thread SI forums Southampton Good player & Team Guide on SI forums General Southampton Discussion on SI forums

Southampton F.C. Guide - Football Manager 2009 Club Information Background Name: Southampton Nickname: The Saints Founded: 1885 Home Kit: Red & white striped shirt, black shorts, red and white hooped socks Away Kit: Grey shirt, shorts and socks. All with red and white piping Rivals: Portsmouth Minor Rivals: Bournemouth Affiliations: Eastleigh, Exeter City, Quingdao Zhongneng Legends: Matthew Le Tissier, Gordan Strachan, Lawrie McMenemy Icons: Kevin Keegan, Michael Svensson, Glenn Co.ckerill, Mark Dennis, Nick Holmes, Tim Flowers, Wayne Bridge, Dave Jones, Peter Shilton, Kevin Moore, Mick Mills, Rod Wallace, Chris Marsden, Claus Lundekvam, Alan Shearer, Chris Nicholl, Jason Dodd, Francis Benali,Anti Niemi,Mark Wright,Marian Pahars, Jimmy Case Favoured Personnel: Andrew Surman, Matthew Oakley, Chris Baird, James Beattie, Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott Disliked Staff: Harry Redknapp, Milan Mandaric League: English Championship Media Prediction: 19th Team Captain: Michael Svensson Vice Captain: Chris Perry Finances Estimated Value: £14.75m Loan Debt: £19m (£190k/per month untill 2025) Balance: £2m Transfer Budget: £0 Remaining Wage Budget: £0 p/w Stadium and Training Ground: St. Mary’s, Southampton Capacity: 32,689 Expansion Capacity: 54,000 Season Ticket Holders: 9,500 Average Ticket Price: £26 Average Season Ticket Price: £470 Training ground: Staplewood Training Facilities: Top Training Facilities Youth Facilities: Excellent Youth Facilities + Youth Academy Staff Chairman: Rupert Lowe Director: Michael Wilde Director: Andrew Cowen Director: David Jones Head Coach: Jan Poortvliet Assistant Manager: Mark Wotte Coach: Dave Hockaday Goalkeeper Coach: Macolm Webster Fitness Coach: Nick Harvey Youth Coach: Stewart Henderson Youth Coach: Matthew Crocker Youth Coach: Terry Moore Youth Coach: David Puckett Physio: Mo Gimpel Physio: Andy Barr Physio: Chris Lovegrove Scout: Gavin Tait Scout: Scott McLachlan Squad Analysis Jan Poortvliet's Formation Goalkeeper Right Back Centre Back Centre Back Left Back Central Midfield Central Midfield Right Wing Attacking Midfield Left Wing Striker Poortvliet is a former Dutch international and played for the Netherlands in the 1978 World Cup final against Argentina. He likes to play "total football" in a 4231 formation. High tempo, quick passing football is the name of the game. Utilizing the full width of the pitch with wingers and attacking full backs. The two central midfielders are there to sit in front of the back four and break up attacks and start them for Saints. The front four positions all interchange throughout the game and the emphasis is very much on youth with good pace and movement. Goalkeepers Current number one keeper is Kelvin Davis with two young keepers; Polish under 21 international Bartosz Bialkowski and summer purchase from Tottenham Hotspur Tommy Forecast battling it out for the number two spot. Youngster to watch = Andrej Pernecky Left Backs Andrew Surman is the current incumbent of this postion in the Southampton side although naturally a midfield player Jan Poortvliet likes his fullbacks make forward runs and start moves. Rudolph Skacel has also played much of his career in forward positions but is also able to cover at left back. Youngster to watch = Joseph Mills Andrew Surman Right Backs Academy graduate Lloyd James has converted from his normal central midfield position to establish himself as the clubs first choice right back. England under 19 captain Jack Cork on loan from Chelsea can also cover for this position. Youngster to watch = Jamie Hatch Centre Backs After nearly four years without regular football due to a very serious knee injury, Michael Svensson has been made club captain. He is a natural leader and his determination to succeed in matches and return to the sport is reflected in his nickname “Killer”. Veteran Chris Perry also adds some much needed experience in a very young squad. Chelsea loanee Jack Cork and Wayne Thomas provide cover. Youngsters to watch = Oliver Lancashire and Aaran Racine Central Midfielders Possible signing of the season was French youth international Morgan Schneiderlin comfortable on the ball he like to sit in front of the defense and break out quickly. His central midfield partner is terrier like Simon Gillett who covers every blade of grass to break down opposition attacks and start his own. Providing cover is experienced former Plymouth Argyle captain Paul Wotton and much derided Anthony Pulis. Morgan Schneiderlin Left Wingers Summer free transfer signing Lee Holmes has started to reinvigorate his career which had stalled at Derby County and has claimed the left wing role. Experieced Rudolph Skacel and Andrew Surman can also play in this role but are needed in the left back slot. Youngster to watch = Jamie White Right Wingers There is a lot of competition for this place in the Saints team. Nathan Dyer and his explosive speed can be a very useful asset. Strikers Bradley Wright-Phillips and David McGoldrick can also be used in this role and interchange with the other attacking positions. Youngster to watch = Jake Thomson Jake Thomson Attacking Midfielders Adam Lallana broke into the first team and the end of last season and has since made the position just off the striker his own. A naturally gifted player he has excellent technique both in distributing the ball and running at defenders. Romain Gasmi on loan from RC Strasborg was once dubbed “the next Zidane” by coach Jean Pierre-Papin and is there to provide competition for this position. David McGoldrick can also cover for this position if needed. Strikers Last seasons top scorer Stern John would be the obvious choice for the strikers role. However academy graduate David McGoldrick or loanee from Tottenham Thomas Pekhart may suit the style better. Bradley Wright-Phillips is also a possibility for a starting role in this postion. Youngster to watch = Matthew Paterson My tips for success with Southampton Give Poortvliet's 4231 formation a try. The players in the squad suit it. Due to lack of finance make good use of the young players already at the club from the strong youth academy. Try to loan quality young players from the Premiership in problem positions such as the full back area. Make a 2/3 year plan for a promotion push, it will be hard to do in the first year.