Matthew Le God

Not due to the quality of our first choice XI... it is largely due to our lack of squad depth in some areas screwing us.

@Lord Duckhunter prefers random guesses rather than evidence.

You've decided to ignore Ward-Prowse and Romeu's ball winning stats then?

1) Who said that? 2) You admit you haven't seen him play... Yet have written him off already. Can you not see the issue/conflict between those two things?

So are you saying you can bank on a midfielder if he scores open play goals but not if he scores free kick goals? If so why the difference?

1) Why are you focusing on size? Is Messi too small for the Premier League? 2) You've admitted you haven't seen him play so how are you making the judgment he isn't good enough? 3) Armstrong outdid Ings for goals per game if you look at both of their last seasons in the Championship. 4) Do free kick goals not count? Why are you so dismissive of them? Saints will still get lots of free kicks outside the box next season and Ward-Prowse is likely to score quite a few from those opportunities.

1) & 2) 3) Stuart Armstrong 4 league goals, James Ward-Prowse league 8 goals from midfield is pretty good. Not sure what you expect from a midfielder!

A more reliable source than Alex Crook...

One big difference... Livramento started last season at the age of 17... playing in Chelsea's under 23 team. To win player of the season in age group 5 or 6 years above you is significant wouldn't you agree?

The Brighton forum thread on him. The last few pages of the 25 page thread makes for interesting reading...! 😉😇 https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?388630-Tino-Livramento

@Turkish

Might not be the only 'big 6' buy back deal Saints do...

Update 20 minutes ago from the journalist who first broke the story...

Difference is... Armstrong only has under 1 year left of his contract, the others had longer which increases their value.

I didn't say it was, I was talking in general. But in this case it is highly suspicious as it came minutes after it was announced he was leaving.

Not really comparable situations. - Livramento is an 18 year old who hasn't had a single loan. - Bertrand was a 24 year old when he first joined us on loan and had previously had loans at Bournemouth, Oldham, Norwich, Reading, Nottingham Forest & Aston Villa plus had played 28 first team games for Chelsea.

How about... people looking for Saints news rather than made up bullshit? Surely everyone on this forum of all forums wants the former of those two options... don't they?

If he posted on here before it was all over the news the Hibernian manager said Doig was leaving then it would be intriguing. As he posted on this forum minutes after it was all over Twitter it looks extremely suspect.

I think all that was is someone seeing the news the Hibernian manager said Doig was leaving and a few minutes he made a random suggestion on this forum. Doesn't make him ITK.

So you decided to ignore the article where this story broke last night says RB Leipzig, AC Milan, Arsenal and Man City?

I didn't use either of them.