Matthew Le God

You asked for a hypothetical situation and I gave you one. You also ignored my question. I'll ask it for a 3rd time ... If someone genuinely believes prayer works... why would you bother seeking medical help? Why is medicine needed along with a prayer? Why give God any credit if medicine is used? Medicine is human made and doctors are human! If you have a headache and take a paracetamol and the headache goes... what cured the headache... god or the paracetamol?

To compare this to flu as Le Tissier and now you have is daft. Without any measures this virus is predicted to kill 500,000 in the UK. Without measures like social distancing etc flu does not get remotely close to that. Please watch this... Do you have anything even remotely coming to good evidence to support that? If you do... post them in this thread https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?55460-Terrorist-Attacks-WARNING-CONTAINS-DISTRESSING-IMAGES&highlight=theories#.Xnj_6oj7SUk

You didn't answer the question. I'll ask it again... If someone genuinely believes prayer works... why would you bother seeking medical help?

Woman prays for God to heal her child from corona-virus, so doesn't take them to the hospital... child dies. There a hypothetical example as you asked! If someone genuinely believes prayer works... why would you bother seeking medical help?

Le Tissier is doing so from a position of no information. He isn't countering it with anything. He is being extremely foolish. Don't you?

I know you are joking. But that doesn't hold up, he is supposed to be all knowing, so before he created me he knew what I'd do. So like everyone else if the Christian god exists none of us have free will as the god created us in a way that he knows the outcome so choices are not ours, he made our choices and knows what they will be.

The butterfly effect means it does! Even more so when politicians act on their religious beliefs, but still matters when anyone does. We are small parts of society, so if some are acting on irrational religious beliefs we are all impacted.

If he didn't like weirdos and dullards... why did he create them? I'd rather not spend eternity with a deity who thinks slavery, genocide, sexism and homophobia is ok. The devil doesn't kill as many people as god does in the Bible... is the devil the good guy in the fictional story?

But he apparently 'created' me. He is inept if his aim is spread his word to everyone. If he is all knowing and all powerful there should not be more than one religion... unless he is incompetent... or more likely a man man creation/non existent!

Why would he not want some of his creations not to believe in him? Instead his incompetence has led to humans believing in thousands of different Gods. He is clearly inept at being a god to allow this to happen. If he were really all powerful he could simply prove to everyone he existed. This is simple to explain... thousands of gods man made by thousands of humans. They are contradictory so they can't all be right... but they can all be wrong.

If your god is all knowing then he knows what it would take for non believers to believe in him. Yet he decides not to provide that level of evidence. That is the action of an inept and incompetent deity... or more likely one that doesn't exist and is a man made creation used to explain what at the time was unexplained.

At no point did I say it would definitely happen. Yet again you twisting words!

Not mind blowing. Simply explained by it being written by lots of different men with their own ideas and not by a loving, all knowingand all powerful god.

Yet again... ignoring questions

What don't you believe?

I'm also intrigued why using Leviticus or Deuteronomy to show how evil this character is isn't valid.

Loving not living

Ok... actually form a rebuttal. Explain how a living, all knowing And all powerful God is not an oxymoron. Because those qualities are in conflict with each other and aren't logically possible for all to be the case at the same time.

Not arrogant. The last 13 years on this forum have shown you dont understand how evidence or rebuttals work

You are shoehorning the modern world into the Bible where it does not fit. Modern Russia is not mentioned in the Bible. There is no credible prophecy in the Bible. It can all be easily explained and is not impressive. Prove me wrong on that!

Yes, beliefs impact her actions. Puzzling why you think beliefs don't impact on actions.

You can't form rebuttals and resort to petty insults. I am educated to masters level... I know how evidence works... you clearly don't!

You are another that is unable to form a rebuttal.

Russia is not mentioned in the Bible. You have shoehorned the modern world to fit something in the Bible when it does not. That is not how evidence works. You should not start at a conclusion and look for evidence like you do. Instead you should follow the evidence to a conclusion.

Raging Bull and you both appear unable form a coherant rebuttal. That is probably why you don't answer questions.