Matthew Le God

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1582465_southampton-warn-clubs-off-luke-shaw

Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Chambers and Stephens are currently at Champney's with the rest of the 1st team squad for the next week btw (in case anyone cares). http://www.champneys.com/

Simon Peach ‏@SimonPeach #SaintsFC will ignore any bids from #CFC & the like for @Luke_shaw3, I can report. Unlike w/Theo, Bale & Chambo, club will refuse to budge.

Yes, it does! It says in the last paragraph before the personal profiles... "We are proud to be able to list the following players as having signed their first professional contracts at our football club, all of whom have put pen to paper on a three year deal." It wouldn't be from December 2010, it would be from his 17th birthday. 12th July 2012 to 30th June 2015. It was a pre-contract he signed, he can't easily get out of that.

So if he does stay this summer, is the reverse of what you said true?

He has signed a professional contract. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2228492,00.html

No harm done, someone might be interested.

Just in case anyone wonders where I got it from... http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1563532.html?cid=rssfeed&att=

Reminds me of the opening scene of this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hPzoIEBz52M#t=36s

I see how some are wanting to swing this thread into the normal direction. As I said earlier... "I imagine Cortese and Adkins will work very hard to keep him, as retaining such players is core to their overall plan for the future. This will tell us a lot if he stays or goes this summer with the big clubs using the media to kick off a transfer battle. Situation is now different from when Bale, Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain left as we now can offer top flight football."

There are Saints players on more than £20k p/w. The Japanese press for example reported Tadanari Lee was on £15k p/w in the Championship and had a 50% promotion clause taking him to £23k p/w.

Do you not think that would play a role? Hopefully it doesn't, but a 16 year old sounded out in the national press by the club he supports...

Luke Shaw is a Chelsea fan, which doesn't help matters.

Shouldn't you take each case on its own merits? imo he will be worth a great deal more than £4m in the future and is a future England senior international. Yes, it is a risk as he is young and untested, but that doesn't mean he doesn't already hold value based on potential.

Normally a left back, has been used on the wings, even sometimes on the right wing and cutting inside. Very good cross on him and footballing brain. I imagine Cortese and Adkins will work very hard to keep him, as retaining such players is core to their overall plan for the future. This will tell us a lot if he stays or goes this summer with the big clubs using the media to kick off a transfer battle. Situation is now different from when Bale, Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain left as we now can offer top flight football. Plus in the former two players case, we have less need for the money with Liebherr backing us. Given the amounts Saints have managed for those three, I would also be very surprised and disappointed if Shaw left for just £4m.

I have. Going to jump down my throat for that? Or would you like my opinion on something?

He has signed a professional contract. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2228492,00.html

Pearce would have had to drop one of Bellamy, Giggs or Richards to allow Lallana to be included.

I think you are right, it is currently a huge mess and is losing the club money and customer confidence.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11719/7859045/Curanovic-heading-to-Pompey

Did you get a confirmation email?

When I did my renewal I got a confirmation email. My dad ordered new tickets an hour ago online and didn't get an email, the order appears in his account history. Has anyone that got tickets today received an email confirmation?

The same could quite easily apply to you. Once again a positive thread has turned into an "attack thread". Others have already pointed this out.

What makes you think that? I'm clearly not that bad on Twitter or I wouldn't have nearly 600 people following me. Yes, some people on this forum don't like me, but a number of people do. I have received a number of good will private messages from other members of this forum about the abuse a certain 5 or 6 posters constantly give me. That might sound like a "world is against me" post, but the actual number of those against me appears relatively small, they are just unrelenting in putting me down for being positive.